ebrown p wrote:
I believe in a natural universe, and that belief requires in no way me to disprove a god.
What does this mean? (I would think almost every religion believes in a natural universe). How does a belief in a natural universe matter in your life?
No. Almost every religion believes in a supernatural universe.
A belief that all things have a natural origin matters in life because it means we can take our experiences and extrapolate real value for the future from them.
In other words...
If we fall off the bike in a supernatural universe, we must speculate if falling off the bike was an orchestrated event set in place by a governing being or beings. It's the whole wasting time arguing over how many angels can fit on a point of a pin.
If we fall off the bike in a natural universe, we examine the tires, brakes, we review what we were doing. We don't search for some 3rd party intervention.
In both case we can walk away still not knowing why we crashed out bike, but in the natural universe we at least are ONLY dealing with variables that we know are real.
As I have told people when discussing prayer: I've found that praying to the fire hydrant in my alley gives me about the same result as any god I've ever tried to pray to. In the end, at least I can demonstrate that the fire hydrant is real.