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THE STEALTH OZZY

 
 
Setanta
 
Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 02:59 pm
In the U.S., we get stealth Canajuns all the time--Lorne Greene, William Shatner, Michael J. Fox, Peter Jennings--very likely because they sound like 'Mericans to start with. (Well, sorta--i remember when Peter Jennings started with NBC News, it must have been 40 years ago or more. The first time i saw him, though, he gave himself away immediately. He was reading a story with the word "schedule" in it, and being a Canajun, he mispronounced it, of course.)

But the other day, i ran across a stealth Ozzy! It must be harder for folks from Oz because of the accent. Obviously, we know about jokers like Paul Hogan and Olivia Clueless John, but this one was a surprise for me--Errol Flynn. Right there on the DVD box, they told how he was an Ozzy--a native of Spazmania, to be exact.

So i was wondering if the folks here from Oz could tell us about any other stealth Ozzies--folks from Oz who fitted in so well, that we didn't notice.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:02 pm
until I see a birth certificate I will continue to assume Obama is either from Kenya or Australia.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:06 pm
And he sounds just like a 'Merican, too . . . spooky, ain't it?
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:09 pm
@Setanta,
I can't believe you didn't know the Errol was from Tasmania (to be precise about it). Rumor had it in the '40s that he was forced to leave his homeland and seek fame and fortune in Hollywood because there was a manslaughter charge a-hangin' over his handsome head. Whether that was just press-agentry or not, I know not.
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:12 pm
@Setanta,
Barack Obama.


Edit.
Damn! That's not original already!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:25 pm
@Merry Andrew,
According to the film historians in the "Special Features" section of the DVD (it's for Captain Blood, the granddaddy of all Hollywood swashbucklers), he was brought over from England by one of the Warner Brothers (not Jack, although he took over production of the film). He had had some modest roles in England, including a lead in a murder mystery. That manslaughter story sounds like BS to me.

It was his debut in an American film, and he had the lead role. Warner Brothers had had some serious flops, so they weren't putting up big money on that one. The female lead was Olivia de Havilland, and that was her first leading role. Apparently, she had signed up with Warner for a seven year contract, and was beginning to regret it. Basil Rathbone was one of the heavies (great casting), and according to the film history boys, was the swashbuckler of Hollywood, being fanatical about fencing. It was directed by Michael Curtiz (I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy, Casablanca) with the musical score by Erich Korngold. Quite a line-up, and in 1935, Warner used all those folks to try to save money on the production. Curtiz drove Jack Warner nuts with his "spare no expense" attitude.
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:28 pm
@Setanta,
Well, you know the male lead in Avatar is Australian?

And one of the fellas in Brokeback Mountain, I believe?


Hugh Jackman.
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George
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:31 pm
I have a hard time putting "stealth" and "Ozzy" together.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:32 pm
Yeah, these days, they lose the accent PDQ. I learned that Russel Oughta Eat Crow was from Newzilund at about the same time that i learned that he says he's the greatest actor in the world (insert appropriate rolly-eyed emoticon here).
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:36 pm
@Setanta,
Yeah, I remember Captain Blood quite well, Set. Fine, fine swashbuckler. Flynn was so young in those days, it's strange to see him w/o his trademark Snidely Whiplash moustache and droppy-lidded bedroom eyes. I remember watching the movie fairly recently (less than five years ago) and thinking that the whole mistique of Flynn as a dashing Casanova type was misdirected hype. Warner, deMille, Cohn and others should have seen that, at bottom, Errol Flynn was a fresh-faced Irish lad and should have been type-cast as such. There is a charm and a naivetee about his whole demeanor that was left unutilized by some otherwise savvy directors.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 03:42 pm
Yeah, 75 years later, it's pretty cornball. According to the film historians, Warner didn't want to take a big risk with the film, and were completely blindsided by its enormous success. So Errol got to be the king of the Hollywood swashbucklers. A few years later they re-united Flynn, de Havilland and Rathbone in Robin Hood. Type-casting is a bitch, and i'd say the studio system actually encouraged it.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 06:38 pm
I don't know how this turned out....


THE DAILY MIRROR Newspaper, Sydney, Australia
Tuesday, November 3, 1942

ERROL FLYNN FACES ACCUSER: Women Crowd Into Courtroom: 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL'S STORY
By Daily Mirror World Cables and International News Service

HOLLYWOOD, Tuesday. " Grim-faced, Australian film star Errol Flynn sat in court here today and listened intently to evidence by sullen-eyed blonde Betty Hansen, 17-year-old girl, whom he is alleged to have raped during a party at the home of Fred McEvoy, wealthy British sportsman. She described how, after a little "petting," Flynn took her to an upstairs bedroom where she submitted to his advances. "The door was locked. I don't know exactly what was said but I submitted," she said....

Joe(seems these Tasmanians are trouble.)Nation
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 06:50 pm
He was cleared.

Flynn had a reputation for his womanizing, consumption of alcohol and brawling. His freewheeling, hedonistic lifestyle caught up with him in November 1942 when two under-age girls, Betty Hansen and Peggy Satterlee, accused him of statutory rape.[18] A group was organized to support Flynn, named the American Boys' Club for the Defense of Errol Flynn (ABCDEF); its members included William F. Buckley, Jr.[19] The trial took place in January and February 1943, and Flynn was cleared of the charges. The incident served to increase his reputation as a ladies' man, which led to the popular phrase "in like Flynn", the phrase being later parodied in the James Coburn comedy spy film In Like Flint.[20]

Joe(so nevermind)Nation
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:05 pm
So . . . are we to infer that this is typical Ozzy behavior?

The Wabbit said Huge Jackass, er, Hugh Jackman is an Ozzy . . . i wonder if it's common for Ozzies to have long, stiletto-like blades come out of their knuckles . . .
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margo
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:26 pm
That fellow from The Mentalist - whose name just escapes me.

Anthony La Paglia from Without a Trace (he speaks with a Yankee accent out here now...grrrr!)
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:35 pm
Naomi Watts(Australian raised) fooled me in "Mullholland Drive". Thought she was American
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:43 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Yeah, these days, they lose the accent PDQ. I learned that Russel Oughta Eat Crow was from Newzilund at about the same time that i learned that he says he's the greatest actor in the world (insert appropriate rolly-eyed emoticon here).


We don't "lose the accent"....we GAIN a bloody USian one.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:44 pm
Nah . . . you lose the provincialism, gain some sophistication, and qualify for a career in the greatest country on earth . . . wabbit . . . wascalwy wabbit . . .
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:45 pm
Keith Urban, the oz star in Nashville...hard to tell
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oolongteasup
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2010 08:57 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
The female lead was Olivia de Havilland


kismet

you'd piss yourself laughing if you read the story of olivia's purported tasmanian origin

especially when she visited her homeland

honest injun

 

 
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