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given the vertics of a triangle, for example a(3,2), B (-5,-1).C(-2,-8), how would you determine whe

 
 
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given the vertics of a triangle, for example a(3,2), B (-5,-1).C(-2,-8), how would you determine whether it was a right triangle?
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oolongteasup
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jan, 2010 11:14 pm
@love-kiran143,
plot the points and look at the triangle

calculate the slopes (gradients) of each line

lines at right angles have slopes that are negative reciprocals of each other(except 0)
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jan, 2010 11:29 pm
@love-kiran143,
Using the given coordinates, calculate the lengths of the three sides. If it is a right triangle, the Pythagorean Principle will apply and the square of the longest side (hypotenuse) will equal the sum of the squares of the two smaller sides.
oolongteasup
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 12:04 am
@georgeob1,
nice one george

although it's an exercise in determining the gradient
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 12:55 am
@oolongteasup,
OK then relocate the origin of coordinates to Point B, & get new coordinates for Points A & C simply by by subtracting the corresponding old coordinates of Point B from those of A & C. Then take the inner product of the vectors to Points A and C using their new coordiantes. If it is zero the vectors are orthogonal and the triangle is a right triangle.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 01:34 am
@love-kiran143,
love-kiran143 wrote:

given the vertics of a triangle, for example a(3,2), B (-5,-1).C(-2,-8), how would you determine whether it was a right triangle?


love-kiran143
i'm 50 years old and have no idea so dont worry if you dont either. just focus on each individual step. my eyes glazed over as i try to read georges post.

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plot the points.
on what will i plot the points?
what does a(3,2) mean?
what are vertics?
aidan
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 02:15 am
@dadpad,
S/he should have SOME idea if s/he's in a geometry class though.

Vertices are corners. These three points are the corners of a triangle. You plot them on an x/y axis. You can draw it yourself on graph paper by making two perpendicular lines that divide the paper into four quadrants of the same size. You put a 0 where the lines meet. To the left of the horizontal axis (x) the numbers are negative. To the right they're positive. Above the 0 on the vertical axis (y) the numbers are positive, below they are negative. So if you have the point (3,2) you count three squares to the right of the 0 and two squares up from there and make a dot. The first number ALAYS refers to the x axis and the second number ALWAYS refers to the y. Then you do the same thing for your other points.

I- like George- read the problem to be asking if the resulting triangle you draw - once you plot all three points and connect the dots with lines you draw- is a right triangle. This means, does it have a right angle? I don't read the problem to be asking slope - although you can also do it that way. So if the product of the length of the hypoteneuse (the longest side- which would be across from the right angle) is equal to the product of each of the two shorter sides squared and then added together - you have your answer. That's the way I'd do it - I think that's the most direct and easiest - and I think your teacher wants you to work mainly on plotting points here - unless s/he also gave you the formula for slope.
aidan
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 02:23 am
@aidan,
I left out the word 'squared' when talking about the hypoteneuse. You have to square that too.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 02:23 am
@aidan,
Thanks for the simplified explanaton aiden i suspect kiran knows more about this than i do bit there was a reason i asked.

The sum of the square of the two sides equals the square of the hypotonuse.
a2+b2=c2
(where 2 = squared cause i cant do superscript)

if i wanted to work out "slope" i'd use a clinometer.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 08:15 am
@aidan,
Both approaches work and neither is especially difficult, but I think the slope one is by far the easiest. Calculating three slopes is very straightforward and you just leave them as ratios. No squaring, no simplifying radicals.

Given: A(3,2), B (-5,-1).C(-2,-8) then
AB = -3/-8
BC = -7/3
AC = -10/-5

No right triangle. It's also clear from this approach how to make it a right triangle. If BC was -8/3, you would have a right triangle, so move C to (-3,8).
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mm25075
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 03:21 pm
Additonally if you were to plot it and draw lines between the dots, you could measure the angles with a protractor. If one of the angles = 90 degrees, it's a right triangle.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 03:31 pm
@mm25075,
You could do that but in the problem presented angle B is 92.6 degrees, so you better draw it very cleanly and measure it accurately.
mm25075
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 03:38 pm
@engineer,
Good point. You are so smart bro! Smile
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