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What is the meaning of John Verse 1 Chapter 1?

 
 
Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 12:07 pm

'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.'

What is the christian interpretation of this?
How relevant or exemplary is it of western logocentrism?
In the christian sense, what exactly does 'the word' refer to- the word of God, language in general, or truth?
Is it of any significance that many Eastern creation stories start with a 'vibration' whereas this fundamental western one starts with 'The Word'.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 12:14 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
The Pentacle Queen wrote:

Is it of any significance that many Eastern creation stories start with a 'vibration' whereas this fundamental western one starts with 'The Word'.


Really? I'd thought that 'logos' is the original Greek word for the Latin translation "verbum".
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 01:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
word!
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 01:44 pm
@farmerman,
Un denn hatt Gott da himmel un di eath gmacht.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 04:17 am
@Walter Hinteler,
AN he say"DAYUM, IM GOOD AT ALL DIS YERE GEMACHIN AN BEGATTEN"
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 04:38 am
@farmerman,
That's the reason for apple dumplings, sin't it?

(Sorry, PQ, for derailing your thread!)
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 05:34 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
(Sorry, PQ, for derailing your thread!)


That's ok, but do you know the meaning of John verse 1 chapter 1?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 05:48 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
Well, yes, at least basically.

(The meaning of "logos" is a topic in Goethe's Faust as well as for the English translator of Faust, Coleridge.)
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disciple4christ
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2009 02:16 pm
In this verse John was referring to the "word" as Jesus. Although Jesus took upon himself full humanity and lived as a man he never ceased to be the eternal God who has always existed, the creator and sustainer of all things, and the source of eternal life. "The Word became flesh" means becoming human. When Christ was born God became a man. Before God became human, we could only know God partially. After Christ came we could know God fully because he bacame visible and tangible in Christ. Through Christ we are able to see how God thinks, he shows us how to live. Jesus is the example that we are to follow. Jesus came as a sacrifice for all sins, and his death satisfied God's requirements for the removal of sin. In conclusion Christ is God in human form.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 9 Nov, 2009 01:46 pm
@disciple4christ,
disciple4christ wrote:

In this verse John was referring to the "word" as Jesus. Although Jesus took upon himself full humanity and lived as a man he never ceased to be the eternal God who has always existed, the creator and sustainer of all things, and the source of eternal life. "The Word became flesh" means becoming human. When Christ was born God became a man. Before God became human, we could only know God partially. After Christ came we could know God fully because he bacame visible and tangible in Christ. Through Christ we are able to see how God thinks, he shows us how to live. Jesus is the example that we are to follow. Jesus came as a sacrifice for all sins, and his death satisfied God's requirements for the removal of sin. In conclusion Christ is God in human form.


Oh damn. And there's me hoping it was going to be something deep like how language was at the roots of our consciousness.
Thank you for the explanation though, D4C.
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 9 Nov, 2009 09:01 pm
This may not be deep enough for you, PQ, but I've always interpreted it this way. "The Word" is what God wanted to communicate to mankind. Jesus Christ was the personification of the message.

It is interesting that the other three accounts of Christ's life on Earth start out as plain, historical narratives, but John (the disciple who is traditionally thought to have been the closest to Jesus) begins his account with such a mystical statement .
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