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Triple J's Hottest 100 of all time

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 08:28 pm
@hingehead,
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That's it till 4pm local time. Thanks for listening


Smile


Good morning, hinge.
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 08:29 pm
@msolga,
Hi Olgs

Will be joining you in the cat room soonish.
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 08:33 pm
@hingehead,
Oh good!
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 01:55 am
@msolga,
Hey, hinge. Triple J's Hottest 100 of all time has made it to the AGE's Opinion pages! This is serious!
I'm posting this on as you may be interested. What's you opinion of this article? (No women? Really? Gosh. What does this mean?)


The music poll that keeps on rockin' in a man's world
Clem Bastow
July 14, 2009 the AGE


OVER the past month, our nation went to the polls. National youth broadcaster Triple J called for votes for "The Hottest 100 Of All Time", hoping to collate a definitive century of the country's favourite tracks.

A week or so of tallying the offerings from upwards of 500,000 people followed and we all settled in for the countdown, a grander and more suspenseful version of the station's annual Australia Day collation of the year that was. It ended early on Sunday evening, with a track that many tipped to grab pole position, Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit.

However, as the countdown progressed, something sinister emerged: of the 100 tracks that ended up comprising the list, there were no female artists.


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The only women to appear in any notable capacity were The White Stripes' drummer Meg White (Seven Nation Army, number 20), Massive Attack guest vocalists Elizabeth Fraser (Teardrop, 22) and Shara Nelson (Unfinished Sympathy, 93), Pixies bassist Kim Deal (Where Is My Mind, 29), Smashing Pumpkins bassist D'arcy Wretzky (1979, 35; Bullet with Butterfly Wings, 51; Today, 78), and Pulp keyboardist Candida Doyle (Common People, 81). And that's it. Female artists with a history of solid Triple J airplay disappeared from the proceedings: Frente, P. J. Harvey, Tori Amos, Hole, Missy Elliott, Garbage, The Mavis's, Bjork and Missy Higgins. They were all, to borrow Maya Arulpragasam's stage name, M.I.A.

Non-Triple J rock monsters like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and the Beatles made it into the list " what of Aretha Franklin, Janis Joplin and Madonna?

What leads 500,000 plus votes to a result that effectively eliminates female artists from the huge impact that rock and alternative music has made on our generation?

How did Triple J, a station with a fine history of outspoken female presenters, feel about broadcasting it?

A "pocket history" of music " a decade-by-decade account of notable albums and artists featuring just two female solo artists, and a handful of female musicians " that ran on the Triple J website in the lead-up to the poll suggests they wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Many people have reacted with shock and dismay at the Hottest 100's male skew; many more have refused to react at all. It is, they say, just another radio poll.

But casually dismissing the result not only misses the point, it ignores the cultural power that Triple J still wields. This isn't any old golden oldies filler countdown wheeled out so the disc jockeys can have a night off " it is by name and nature definitive. People throw parties and take sickies to hear Triple J roll out its countdowns; the same can't be said for, say, the latest Gold FM walk-through.

Have we just been so bombarded with the work of male artists that, come voting time, we forget about the women?... <cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/the-music-poll-that-keeps-on-rockin-in-a-mans-world-20090713-disn.html?page=-1
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 04:02 am
@msolga,
Hi Olgs

This was mentioned to me to day, and it is weird. I'd be surprised if the gender balance of the voters was skewed one way or the other - so if there is a bias to male rock it's held by women as well. Personally I had two female sung tracks in my shortlist of around 20, but neither made it to my top 10. I don't think I'm a sexist pig, but I wouldn't if I was - would I?
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 04:08 am
@hingehead,
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I don't think I'm a sexist pig, but I wouldn't if I was - would I?


Yes. Smile

The thing that struck me (looking at "the list") was it was very much stuck in the 1990s. But I guess that tells us more about Triple Js listeners, more than anything else.

Anyway, I thought you might be interested in reading that article, for what it's worth.
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 05:21 am
@msolga,
Some of the stuff makes me think it's not just triple J listeners, but.... there is a possibility that Triple J is no longer youth radio. How many Beatles tracks? The Stones, Dylan? None of them made the original all time hottest 100. Something happened.

You're right about the 1990s, but that kind of makes sense depending on the approach of voters. If they were going for 'classics' that stand the test of time, then clearly anything released in the last five years just hasn't had a chance to pass that test.

It's the old stuff that interests me - I can't figure out if the jays listening audience is my age and older, or gen Y is deeply influenced by parental tastes. It amazes me how many young dudes 'love' the Eagles, for example. And that AC/DC are still popular.

I guess everyone's got their own musical journey - and understandably I prefer mine.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 06:02 am
i'll have to check the torrent sites, somebody will probably up the list, i always see the yearly 100 at my preferred site
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