Do you smoke cigarettes?

Reply Fri 1 May, 2009 10:43 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:

but my question remains:
do u allege that every citizen has the right
to stink out any other citizen ?
If u allege that he does, will u identify the source of that right ?


Oh, please do continue.......where in the constitution do you get
your alleged right to air that has been unadultered by human made odors???

It was n is the purpose of the 9th Amendment
to preserve intact the rights of Americans and of Englishmen, as of 1776.
As of then, there existed "trespass quare clausum fregit" also: "trespass in a similar case."
I shoud have a good cause of action sounding Res Ipsa Loquitur
for the noxious substances that u r hurling toward me.

Additionally, I have the right of self defense.
As a matter of principle, that applies to anything,
including gas warfare.
Judicial injunctive relief to abate a nuisance shoud be available.
Some ruff ideas


Where do you read that you have the right to not come into contact with ideas/things/odors/people/reality (who/that) offend you??

My comments are limited to smoke,
not the other items u mentioned.

You sir have the right to your freedom up till the point where it interferes with somebodies else's freedom, after that we need to talk but nothing is ruled in or out. Your freedom to breath clean air is in contest with my freedom to smoke my stogies, and we need to work it out, but your freedom rights do not take priority over my freedom rights just because your ways are clean living and mine are despicable IN YOUR OPINION.
I know that you know this David, and agree with me.

Well, not so much the right to breathe clean air
as the right to not be hit by debris that u hurl my way.

Will u admit that u have no right to discharge water
onto my realty? I extrapolate into the atmosphere.

Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 11:55 am
You're outta yer goddamned mind.
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Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 12:33 pm
I stopped in November 2008 after 10 years ... best decision of my life
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Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 12:46 pm
Local Bar Sign, Featuring the word "Smoking"

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Reply Sun 3 May, 2009 07:58 am
chai2 wrote:

Just curious.

I used to, but haven't for many years.

Here 's the history of my psychosomatic misadventure with smoking:
Many decades ago, when I was 4, my mother mentioned her concern
about my father smoking. It was then MUCH more prevalent than now.
Smoke filled rooms were common and people thought little of it (including me).
I had not taken much notice of the smoke in the air n I was indifferent to it.
My mother offered the opinion that sucking dirt into your lungs
was probably not good for u. Upon the basis of this information,
I hatched a plot calculated to end my father 's smoking.

When he returned home, I falsely informed him
that he was stinking me out with that smoke,
whereas in truth, I was unaffected by the smoke.
I had assumed that being so informed, he 'd no longer smoke;
(at age 4, I did not know the concept of addiction).

To my amazement and consternation, he continued to smoke,
the same as if I had not said anything !!?? From that day forward,
I was olfactorily stunk out by the stench of cigarette smoke, obviously on a psychosomatic basis.

I still don 't like the stink of cigarettes, tho my reaction is less intense.

Reply Sun 3 May, 2009 08:33 pm
day 6 cold turkey

without such sterling support recidivism seemed a smoking gun
Reply Sun 3 May, 2009 08:58 pm
Hey, Solip, think of it as that other people do that.

Well, that worked for me.

I suppose that could be called dissociation, but I didn't do any naming.

meantime, I'll be a solip groupie.
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 11:29 am
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