Do you smoke cigarettes?

Yes, this kitten smokes.

I started when I was 11 (I usually lie about that, and up it to 17, but I could NEVER lie to A2K pals). I am now 47.

Would I like to quit? Why, yes. I can't say I'd "prefer" to be a smoker. Bad for me, messy, dirty, etc.

I am surprisingly healthy, not being overweight, drinking water more than anything else, eating fruits & veggies ('cause I like them), blah blah blah... excuses?

Where are all the smokers out there? Is everyone truly as virtuous as previous, non-smoking/once-smoking posters? Not me.

I smoke.

If we all could confine ourselves to the once a month or special occasion smoke, I am sure many of us that quit would do that. But, for most, the addiction would probably take over.

oh yeah, I didn't mean for this to be a slam against smokers, just getting a picture in my head.

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oh yeah, I didn't mean for this to be a slam against smokers, just getting a picture in my head.

Ummm, this being 2009 calling someone a smoker is about the same now as it was 20 years ago calling someone a fag. Smokers are used to the treatment, they expect it.

Me, I light a cigar now and then as a giant "**** you" to the anti-tobacco NAZI's.

Smokers are used to the treatment, they expect it.

After all, it was their "right" to have non-smokers join them in their foul air, right?

Doess this post stand for the proposition
that every citizen has the right to stink out every other citizen ?

BELMONT, Calif. " Officials in Belmont have given final approval to a new smoking ban that is considered to be one of the toughest in the nation.

After a late push to ease some of the restrictions, the Belmont City Council voted Tuesday to pass the anti-smoking ordinance.

Prohibitions on smoking in parks and other public places will take effect in 30 days. The ordinance's most hotly contested elements " which ban smoking inside apartments and condominiums " won't be enforced for another 14 months.

Officials say the ordinance was written so that smokers will only face enforcement if their neighbors complain.

People will still be able to smoke on Belmont's streets and sidewalks as long as they are not loitering near the entrance to homes or businesses and in parking lots and designated smoking areas.

2009-01-27 18:15:32 - Smoking has been banned in private apartments in Belmont, California, a move supported and requested by Action on Smoking and Health (ASH), but that is only the latest in a series of smoking restrictions in places many smokers consider private, and nothing compared to what many voters would like to impose.


Judges in most states now issue orders banning smoking in a car or home -- sometimes even 24-48 hours before a child arrives -- to protect children involved in custody disputes from exposure.

Similarly, some 17 states have banned smoking in cars and private homes to protect foster children, and a growing number of jurisdictions have banned smoking in cars
when kids are present.

Nonsmokers are beginning to win law suits when tobacco drifts or recirculates into the apartments, and more private businesses are refusing to hire people who smoke, even if they only smoke off the job, some adoption agencies will not consider smokers as prospective parents, and some smokers are being denied operations because their refusal to discontinue smoking substantially increases the odds that the operation will not be successful.

More recently, New Haven, CT, and Truro in Canada, have banned smoking on some public streets, and the American Lung Association has said it will press for "smoking restrictions on sidewalks in commercial areas."

Surveys now show that almost 25% of voters would totally outlaw tobacco smoking, more than 50% would ban smoking in all homes, and many believe that "governments should make it illegal for people with children to smoke."

"Smokers poison the air the public and their own children are forced to breathe with toxic carcinogenic fumes, pollute the air in adjoining apartments, inflate taxes and the costs of health insurance for nonsmokers, are the major cause of residential fire deaths, kill thousands of their own children every year, and are a major contributor to litter on beaches, streets, and elsewhere. Isn't it time we stopped tolerating if not encouraging this outrageous behavior and harm to the public, and cracked down as we do with other child abusers, polluters, and public nuisances," suggests public interest law professor John Banzhaf, Executive Director of ASH.

PROFESSOR JOHN F. BANZHAF III
Executive Director and Chief Counsel
Action on Smoking and Health (ASH)
2013 H Street, NW
Washington, DC 20006, USA
(202) 659-4310 // ash.org

Doess this post stand for the proposition
that every citizen has the right to stink out every other citizen ?

we can debate the question of the right to smoke around kids,

but this crap we have now about not being able to smoke in your own apartment or in your car unless the windows are rolled up
is clearly aimed at punishing those who wish to partake in the legal product called cigarettes. These laws are extremely unconstitutional, and and indictment against those who wrote the laws and voted for them.

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BELMONT, Calif. " Officials in Belmont have given final approval to a new smoking ban that is considered to be one of the toughest in the nation.

After a late push to ease some of the restrictions, the Belmont City Council voted Tuesday to pass the anti-smoking ordinance.

Prohibitions on smoking in parks and other public places will take effect in 30 days. The ordinance's most hotly contested elements " which ban smoking inside apartments and condominiums " won't be enforced for another 14 months.

Officials say the ordinance was written so that smokers will only face enforcement if their neighbors complain.

People will still be able to smoke on Belmont's streets and sidewalks as long as they are not loitering near the entrance to homes or businesses and in parking lots and designated smoking areas.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300658,00.html

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There are multiple places where it is illegal to smoke in a car if anyone 16-18 or younger is present.
I did live in a place where it was illegal to smoke in your car without the windows rolled all of the way up.

Question:
if someone decides to burn some rubber tires,
do his neighbors have any legitimate complaint
about getting stunk out from that ??

but my question remains:
do u allege that every citizen has the right
to stink out any other citizen ?
If u allege that he does, will u identify the source of that right ?