Sun 7 Dec, 2008 04:18 am
why do americans call a cup of coffee a cup of joe?
Possibly a substitution for "cup of Java" another expression coming from a coffee source.
i always thought of "java" as being a cup of tea
No, around these parts Java is always coffee. I think the shift from Java to 'joe' is correct.
Cup of Joe
Josephus Daniels (18 May 1862-15 January 1948) was appointed Secretary of the Navy by President Woodrow Wilson in 1913. Among his reforms of the Navy were inaugurating the practice of making 100 Sailors from the Fleet eligible for entrance into the Naval Academy, the introduction of women into the service, and the abolishment of the officers' wine mess. From that time on, the strongest drink aboard Navy ships could only be coffee and over the years, a cup of coffee became known as "a cup of Joe".
As zomebody once zaid, data is not the plural of anecdote.
Cheer up, Mac. It's possible, you know, that although the phrase 'cup of joe' had been around for quite a while, Jesephus Daniels' edict helped to popularize it, while its putative antecedent 'cuppa Java' fell into relative disuse.
I love coffee, I love tea
I love the the Java Jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup (Boy)
I love java, sweet and hot
Whoops Mr. Moto, I'm a coffee pot
Shoot the pot and I'll pour me a shot
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup
Oh slip me a slug from the wonderful mug
And I'll cut a rug just snug in a jug
A sliced up onion and a raw one
Draw one -
Waiter, waiter, percolator
The Manhatten Transfer recorded this some time back....very talented
After some thought it occurred to me that asking for a cuppa joe was more of a 40s -50s phrase in American films. If I want coffee when I'm in a restaurant I ask for high test, so they don't pour decaf. I don't think I've ever heard an actual person ask for a cup of joe.
It's probably like Civil War general Hooker getting credit for that slang for "prostitute." It's just as logical for it to mean the girl going out and hooking customers, as in fishing.
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"Data" is the plural of "datum." The Diploma Dumbos in the media (also plural) introduced this word to the general public a few decades ago in order to sound educated to stupid people but not to people who knew the word before that. It's better to describe it as phony grammar than bad grammar, which may imply ignorance rather than deception.
@Sage of Main Street,
Is it true that the word "flammable" had to be introduced in wartime (1939-1945) because GIs might be confused as to the meaning of "inflammable"?