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Fri 21 Nov, 2008 01:06 pm
I don't understand suicide that well. I don't understand the ones who would taunt and encourage suicide at all. - - -
RSS A Florida teenager who used a webcam to live-stream his suicide Wednesday was reportedly encouraged by other people on the Web site, authorities told ABCNews.com.
(Justin.tv)"People were egging him on and saying things like 'go ahead and do it, faggot,' said Wendy Crane, an investigator at the Broward County Medical Examiner's office.
Abraham Biggs, 19, of Pembroke Pines, Fla., had been blogging on an online body-building message board and had linked to his page on Justin.tv, a live video streaming Web site, where the camera rolled as he overdosed on prescription pills, according to Crane.
Biggs, who had reportedly been discussing his suicide on the forums, also posted a suicide note on a body-building forum, which has since been taken down, in which he wrote, "I hate myself and I hate living."
@edgarblythe,
I don't understand those who would taunt anyone- much less someone who is obviously seriously suicidal.
But I guess his instinct to exhibit exactly what he was feeling and what was happening to him as it happened is commonplace these days. It's almost like it doesn't really happen if it doesn't happen on camera or in the presence of others.
I have no judgment to make against those who hate their lives and hate living. I know that I myself, put in certain circumstances, would probably hate living.
I just hope he found the peace he was searching for, and I don't think that had anything to do with whether or not he 'televised' his suicide.
@edgarblythe,
Just heard this on the radio. I'm as puzzled as you, edgar, by anyone who would actually get some sort of pleasure out of watching this sort of thing and encouraging the would-be suicide. It's beyond sick.
@Merry Andrew,
It certainly is sick, Andrew. I think that especially the younger generation
has become numb to others in distress.
The topic was deleted but it's been all over the web. It's some saddening stuff...
http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/372349055_11202008_1.jpg
@CalamityJane,
I'm curious why you assume that the eggers-on were members of "the younger generation," CJ. I can think of some posters here edging on into the baby boomer generation who I could imagine acting like that, particularly if they didn't think the kid would actually do it.
A crappy situation, to be sure...
@patiodog,
Fair enough, patio, ignorance isn't only reserved for the young. I assumed it was a younger generation because the suicide kid was young, some of the avatar pictures showed young guys, and I just think that the body builder crowd is rather younger than older.
Now having said that, I do believe that due to the over exposure to violence
via movies, cartoon, video games etc. one becomes more numb to the suffering
of others.
@patiodog,
You got that right, Pdog. The gang of insensitives here are anything but kids, and seem oblivious to the damage they could do... and one day may.
The actual story is
here.
Some excerpts:
"The bloggers said that Biggs had threatened to kill himself before and had faked it, so at first they didn't believe him," said Crane. "Gradually, as you read the blog further into the day the bloggers start commenting on how Biggs isn't moving."
"The anonymity and lack of personal connection bring out the worst in people."
"It's impossible for sites like Justin.tv to monitor everything that's going on, so that puts the burden on the community to help stop bad things from happening."
"
Most times, they just need someone to talk to, and the Internet is the only forum they have."
@Merry Andrew,
Merry Andrew wrote:
Just heard this on the radio. I'm as puzzled as you, edgar,
by anyone who would actually get some sort of pleasure out of
watching this sort of thing and encouraging the would-be suicide. It's beyond sick.
That 's the definition of
sadism: taking pleasure from someone else 's misery.
A regular on some other sites I frequent announced his intentions of suicide unfortunately. But this time, I'm heartened to see
so many people trying to help. Across the web a bunch of people who knew him are mobilizing to try to prevent the suicide.
They've located his residence in Brisbane and sent cops over. But he's not there and is off on his bike. I'm
following the efforts and keeping my fingers crossed.
I can't say how glad I am that nobody's acting like the idiots over on bodybuilding.com did.
@Robert Gentel,
Yikes. Just read a bunch of stuff about it, I am also impressed by how people are reacting. I sure hope they find him in time.
@sozobe,
Do you know what happened?
I've seen one twitter that said he was found dead but others are still asking what happened and I don't know if the person who said that is a trustworthy or not.
@sozobe,
I've read more, seems like things are still inconclusive.
http://twitter.com/DRMacIver
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:Do you know what happened?
I've read both that he was found dead as well as that he was found and is ok, the ok seems more credible to me but that might just be wishful thinking on my part.
Edit:
found this
I have been reading along, waiting for the rest of the story.
@Robert Gentel,
Wow. That does seem more credible.
I've seen a lot of speculation that this was a cry for help -- posting the note in a live chat room, etc. -- so I hope he does get the help he needs. Because that's the first thing I think, after relief that he's OK, is whether he'd just try it again and be more careful this time.
We still don't know for sure that he's OK, I guess, either. Hope so.
@Robert Gentel,
Well that's good that he was found okay - or rather not physically harmed.
The kid who went on a shooting rampage in a German school and killed 16 people, had written in a public forum about his plan the day prior. He wasn't
taken too seriously - sadly, it became reality!
I also hate living but i wouldn't take my own life. Suffering is caused by others, its everybody's else fault not mine or his.
@Nefarious47,
Nefarious47 wrote:
I also hate living but i wouldn't take my own life.
Suffering is caused by others, its everybody's else fault not mine or his.
U think it might be worth the time
to plan a strategy for making your life better n better?
Decide what u like and figure out how to make your life that way.
Choose your 3 favorite things
and figure out how to include more of them in your life.
David
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