MUSSOLINI, HITLER, CHAVEZ, OBAMA: ALL ELECTED

@OmSigDAVID,

I offered to back off personal remarks if you would do the same. You haven't done so, you continued to make insulting, belittling remarks which implied that i am a coward and a traitor.

It is typical of the conservative whiner to have made one's bed and then to whine about being obliged to lie in it. If you wished no longer to be subjected to epithets from me, you should have kept your side of the bargain. You didn't.

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@OCCOM BILL,

For what it is worth,
in fairness to the blacks, I will re-iterate,
that if Biden had run against Condi Rice,
for the presidency, I 'd have voted for Condi.

The same goes for Alan Keys, another black,
who ran unsuccessfully against Oboy for the Senate,
or I 'd vote for a computer to do the job,
as long as constitutional freedom of the individual is preserved.

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@Setanta,

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I offered to back off personal remarks if you would do the same.
You haven't done so, you continued to make insulting,
belittling remarks which implied that i am a coward and a traitor.

WHAT ??
That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE.
I did nothing of the kind.

Since the election, I have never paused to consider
whether u were a coward, nor a traitor, nor anything else.
I have had worse and more severe things to consider
than your moral character or legal status.

I dont spend much time thinking about u
and I posted no remarks about cowardice nor treason.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Hitler did not mimic what ulyanov did in Russia.
He did not rise to power by violent revolution.
He came to power as the result of peaceful, democratic elections,
then he ended both democracy and peace.

For the start, massa david, these paragraphs from kid net's Encyclopedia for Children:

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Weimar Republic (1919 - 1933)

... ... ...

In the early years, successive revolts from both left and right (1919-1923) and hyperinflation in 1923 had to be defeated. Over the following years conditions improved with the relaxation of reparation payments and improved relations with Germany's former enemies. A succession of coalition governments restored a substantial degree of order and prosperity until the onset of the Great Depression in 1930.

The new economic decline combined with memories of the 1923 hyperinflation and nationalist opposition stemming from the draconian conditions of the Treaty of Versailles undermined the Weimar government from inside and out. Adolf Hitler and his "National Socialist German Workers' Party" (NSDAP, or Nazis) capitalized on this and on the growing unemployment. Stressing nationalist and racial themes and promising to put the unemployed back to work, the Nazis blamed many of Germany's ills on alleged Jewish conspiracies, even claiming that the first World War was lost because of treason from within (the so-called Dolchstoßlegende).

Nazism's Rise and Defeat (1933-1945)

After the NSDAP had gained the relative majority of the popular vote in two 1932 general elections, Hitler was appointed Reichskanzler (Chancellor) by President Paul von Hindenburg on January 30, 1933, with the help of monarchists, industrial magnats and conservatives like the Nationalist Party (DNVP[?]). After Hindenburg's death (August 1934), Hitler combined the presidency and chancellorship as Führer (leader) of Germany. Once in power, Hitler and his party first undermined then abolished democratic institutions and opposition parties as they established their "Third Reich"; see Gleichschaltung for details. [...]

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

You are filled with hate, and will stop at nothing to attempt to justify that hate, which remains, nevertheless, obsessive and irrational.

Not only that: he is now neglecting the progroms the Jews had to suffer in Germany, rewriting the most terrible 12 years of the German history in a stupid kind of 'glorification' - I really get the idea, he'll become a self-confessed Nazi soon ...

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@Walter Hinteler,

if we keep feeding him , we only have ourselves to blame if he stays alive !
hbg

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@Walter Hinteler,

I am very disappointed in u, Walter.
I had thought better of u than these lurid and baseless insults u fling.
U shoud be ashamed.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

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Not only that: he is now neglecting the progroms the Jews had to suffer in Germany,
rewriting the most terrible 12 years of the German history
in a stupid kind of 'glorification'

I am shocked and perplexed.
I have long believed that government shoud be an object
of suspicion and loathing by every citizen, because it is a government.
Is THAT nazi doctrine ??

For years, I have promoted the concept that government
shoud be under the heavy boot of the INDIVIDUAL.
I have repeatedly advocated weak and feeble domestic government.
Is THAT nazi doctrine ??
I have not denounced the Jews; is that nazi doctrine ?

Walter, I challenge u to find any "glorification" of nazism
in my posts, to which u have referred.

SPECIFICLY HOW did I re-write German history ?

Inasmuch as I am a fervent INDIVIDUALIST and LIBERTARIAN,
HOW can I confess to being a nazi ??
Will u explain THAT ?

U have become a mud slinger, Walter, mindlessly against me.
Shame on u.

David

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@hamburger,

Put me on Ignore.
That 's what its FOR.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Put me on Ignore.
That 's what its FOR.

dave many of us cannot put you on ignore because like the movie Invasion of the body snatchers, you may be horrible to our senses but we keep watching anyway. A type of morbid curiosity I suppose.

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@OmSigDAVID,

The election was only three days ago, bright boy. My complaint against you goes back months. I see your view of short term history is about as reliable as your longer view of history--which is to day, not reliable at all.

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Allow me, by the way, to point out something which bright boy here is ignoring, although he's been told more than once. Hitler was not elected to anything, other than the leadership of the NSDAP. Hitler stood for election just once, in 1932, for the office of President--and Hidenberg handed him his ass.

Moron.

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@dyslexia,

dyslexia wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Put me on Ignore.
That 's what its FOR.

dave many of us cannot put you on ignore because like the movie Invasion of the body snatchers, you may be horrible to our senses but we keep watching anyway. A type of morbid curiosity I suppose.

A constant source of amusement to be sure. Smile

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@dyslexia,

Quote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Put me on Ignore.
That 's what its FOR.

Quote:

dave many of us cannot put you on ignore because like the movie
Invasion of the body snatchers, you may be horrible to our senses
but we keep watching anyway. A type of morbid curiosity I suppose.

Thank u; I ll take that as a compliment.

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@Setanta,

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The election was only three days ago, bright boy.
My complaint against you goes back months.

In other words, from before u chose to "extend the olive branch" as u put it.

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I see your view of short term history is about as reliable
as your longer view of history--which is to day, not reliable at all.

It is a fact that since u extended the "olive branch" I have not accused u
of treason nor of cowardice, but to tell u the truth,
you are so abrasively rude, insolent and malicious,
on a chronic basis, (even after u requested restoration
of peaceful and civil relations, to which I agreed)
that I have lost interest in what u think about anything.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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In other words, from before u [sic] chose to "extend the olive branch" as u [sic] put it.

No, it was after that time that you continued to address me in a snide, condescending and insulting manner, so i finally gave up a one-sided effort to be civil. Even then, my only offense has been to refer to you as I'mSickDavid--and appellation the use of which i don't regret.

Oh, and, despite your protestations to the contrary, when you claim that you don't care what i write--you continue to respond to or comment on my posts.

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@Setanta,

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despite your protestations to the contrary,
when you claim that you don't care what i write--
you continue to respond to or comment on my posts.

That was in furtherance of our agreement of reciprocal civility,
not that I 'd turn my back on u in ostracism.
U have repudiated that agreement. It is void.

For most people,
indeed for EVERYONE else with whom I discuss history,
it IS possible to consider the subject
without caustic ad hominem invective,
but u go out of your way to make social interaction with u unpleasant.
No one is safe from your boorish bad manners.
Surely, dealing with u is very nice for mashochists; I 'm a hedonist.

U don t know how to be a gentleman.
I refuse to have anything further to do with u; its just not worth it.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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That was in furtherance of our agreement of reciprocal civility,
not that I 'd turn my back on u in ostracism.
U have repudiated that agreement. It is void.

Bullshit . . . there was never any such agreement (as regards ostracism). Now you're just making **** up as you go along. You are seriously delusional. As for what constitutes a gentleman, you make it obvious with so many of your comments that that is completely foreign territory to you. If you think you can be a gentleman by civilities to individuals with whom you have close contact, while excoriating public figures with whom you don't, and entire groups of people with whom you disagree, your concept of what constitutes being a gentleman is as warped and perverse as your unhealthy obsession with firearms.

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Since i have no confidence that you understand subtleties, let me lay this out for you.

You are comparing the President-Elect of the United States to Adolf Hitler. Hitler was responsible for the murderous deaths of millions of people--tens of millions if you include those killed in the European war. Upon what basis do you compare Barack Obama to that record? Upon what actions of his do you make such a scurrilous comparison of him to Hitler? Do you seriously allege that Obama has acted in a manner to warrant such an infamous charge?

Do you consider that to be the act of a gentleman? Instruct me, oh gentle one.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Sadly -- very sadly -- America has doomed itself to forsake liberty
in favor of an extorted imitation of equality,
beginning with financial equality from a Marxist re-distribution of wealth.

Hmm...then I guess Alaska has been doomed ever since they elected Sarah Palin (because she taxes the oil companies in order to give every resident a check each year).

If that isn't redistribution of wealth, I don't know what is.

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@Lambchop,

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Hmm...then I guess Alaska has been doomed ever since they elected Sarah Palin
(because she taxes the oil companies in order to give every
resident a check each year).

If that isn't redistribution of wealth, I don't know what is.

Good point; its a scandalous discrimination.
Its simply NOT FAIR.
It is just financial rape.

WHERE is the outrage ??

David

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