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Foshizzle my nizzle

 
 
Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:42 pm
nimh,

I'm not in a foul mood at all. I had in fact re-read my post and removed the part that's sticking in your throat because it was unintended and unecessaty. Since you saw it I guess the edit didn't work and I'm sorry.

While i stand by my assertion I restracted the "as flawed as it can get" in favor of "a bit fuzzy".

If you'd like to discuss it we can, but not on the basis of what I removed because that was a mistake that I tried to correct, and having failed am apologizing for,

I disagree that Eminem is 'un-machoified' and with many other 'takes' of the psycology of rap but that's a subjective call. We seem to agree about some of the more quantifiable elements in the evolution of rap.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:50 pm
Hey, wanna start a rap discussion? You tocuhed on some interesting ones. For e.g. it wasn't just mouring that the 90's rap consisted of. Heck the Brenda example is a instrospective look at society, not mouring at all.

Crazy is an introspective song about drug use "time goes by, puffing on lies hoping that it get me high".

Dear mama was a song about his devotion to his mother despite her failings ("even as a crack feind moma. you always was a black queen moma, I finally understand for a woman it aint easy tryin to raise a man...").

There was much more to 2Pac than his bluster. He was generally credited for bringing introspection to Rap
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Sofia
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:50 pm
I thought Brenda's Got A Baby was sad social commentary, and sort of a useful ballad--it's 'songs' that extol the rape/murder of fat slut whores, after cutting off their nipples--or the murder of his child's mother--or the call to kill Moby that cause me not to be such a fan.

Slim Shady cracked me up. I was disappointed to find out how horribly he speaks about women and gays.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:52 pm
[quote="2Pac, in "Dear Mama""]You are appreciated
When i was young me and mah momma had beef 17 years old
Kicked out on the streets
Tho back at the time I neva thought I'd see her face
Ain't a woman alive that could take my mommas place
Suspended from school, scared to go home I was a fool
With the big boyz breakin all the rules
I shed tears wit my baby sista,
Over the years we was poorer than utha little kids
And even tho we had different daddies
The same drama, when things went wrong we blamed mama
I reminisce on the stress i caused
It was hell
Huggin on my momma from a jail cell
And who'd think in elementary
HEY
I see the penetentury, one day
Runnin from the police thats right
Momma catch me put a whoopin to my backside
And even as a crack fiend mama
Ya always was a black queen mama
I finally understand for a woman it aint easy tryin to raise a man
Ya always was commited
A poor single mutha on welfair, tell me how u did it
Theres no way i could pay u back
But the plan is to show u that i understand
You are appreciated

CHORUS
Lady
Don't ya know we luv ya
Sweet lady (Dear Mama)
Place no one above ya (You are appreciated)
Sweet lady
Don't ya know we luv ya

Now ain't nobody tell us it was fair
No luv 4 my daddy, cuz the coward wasn't there
He passed away and i didnt cry
Cuz my anga, wouldnt let me feel for a stranga
They say im wrong and im heartless
But all along I was lookin 4 a fatha he was gone
I hung around with tha thugs, and even tho they sold drugs, they showed a yung brutha luv
I moved out started really hangin
I needed money on my own, so i started slangin, i ain't guilty cuz
Even tho i sell rocks it feels good puttin money in ya mail box
I luv payin rent when the rents due
Hope ya got the diamond necklace that i sent to ya
Cuz when i was low u was there for me, ya neva left me alone becuz ya cared 4 me
And i can see ya comin home afta work late
Ya in the kitchen tryin ta fix us a hot plate
Just workin with the scraps u was givin
And mama made miracles every thanksgivin
But now the road got rough ur alone
Ur tryin ta raise 2 bad kids on ya own
And there's no way i can pay you back
But mah plan is ta show u that i undastand
You are appreciated

Chorus
Lady
Don't ya know we luv ya
Sweet lady (And dear mama)
Place no one above ya (You are appreciated)
Sweet lady
Don't ya know we luv ya

Pour out sum liquor and I remenisce
Cuz thru tha drama, i can always depend on my mama
And when it seems that i'm hopless
Ya say tha words, that can get me back in focus
When i wuz sick as a little kid
To keep me happy there's no limit to the thangs ya did
And all my childhood memories
And for all the sweet things ya did 4 me
And even tho i act crazy
I gotta thank the Lord that ya made me
There are no words that can express how i feel
Ya neva kept a secret, always stayed real
And i appreciate, how ya raised me
And all the extra luv that ya gave me
I wish, I could take the pain away
If you can make it thru tha night, theres a brighta day
Everythang will be alright if ya hold on
It's a struggle every day, got a roll on
And there's no way i could pay ya back
But my plan is to show you that i undastand
You are appreciated

Chorus
Lady
Don't ya know we luv ya
Sweet lady (Dear mama)
Place no one above ya (You are appreciated)
Sweet lady
Don't ya know we luv ya
Sweet lady (And dear mama)
(Dear mama) Lady
Lady
Lady [/quote]
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 04:30 pm
Sofia wrote:
I thought Brenda's Got A Baby was sad social commentary, and sort of a useful ballad--it's 'songs' that extol the rape/murder of fat slut whores, after cutting off their nipples--or the murder of his child's mother--or the call to kill Moby that cause me not to be such a fan.

Slim Shady cracked me up. I was disappointed to find out how horribly he speaks about women and gays.


Yeh. Then again, he'll keep surprising you. Thing is, he just doesnt give a ****, so he'll be dissing fags this moment - but then, the next moment you look, he's standing up for some gay guy and pointing out that its the guy's detractors acting homophobic that are 'the real sissies' - "Paul’s gay ... you're a faggot". (Thats from 8 Mile Road).

As for his child's mother - he just says out loud what others dont dare. I mean, he loves his daughter to bits, she must come up in every fourth track or something - and he feels that her mother had almost robbed him of her and harmed her. So he's as angry as you can get and has the most vengeful, bloody fantasies. Only difference with people in normal life who are as angry as him, is he says so out loud, and spits it in the mike. Now what you need is a female counterpart to his style who'll pose the same kinda thing back the other side round (Craven - know any? Concerning women rappers I'm not really updated since the days of Sista Souljah and Yo-Yo Very Happy ).

OK, I'm not gonna defend this guy blow-by-blow - he's not worth it. We probly wouldnt be pals irl, anyhow <winks>. Thaz OK - 's long as he keeps doing his thing the way he does it. Difference between way I see it and the way I see the politically correct crowd pose it, is I dont mind if people speak up their darkest stuff out loud. I'm not really one for the, oh-my-god you-cant-say-that thing. If you think it, say it, already, 't least then its out in the open. (This came up in a wholly different context in the Shaq/Yao thread, too, where I argued against trying to cleanse public speech from all verbal expressions of racism when the feelings are still there and impacting society anyway, since that just makes it harder to pinpoint it and face up to it).

I winced at some Geto Boys' thing, myself, and decided not to play the track, and I think I skipped two of the tracks on NWA's Niggaz4Life when I taped it, too - which made it a lot easier to consider it one of the best rap albums ever. One was "One less bitch to worry about"; it's the violent raps against 'bitches' that bother me more than any of the oh-yeah-i-killed-a-cop kinda thing. I dont recognize the sentiment, it disgusts me in fact, so I dont derive any pleasure listening to it, myself. But how's telling the guy he shouldnt say it gonna help? If its in life, its gonna be in art. Meanwhile, the next track they got me right in their place, and thats what counts - the minuses are gonna be forgotten while the pluses are what will select the artists from the wannabes.

Oh, did I make it clear yet that I appreciate both 2Pac and Eminem, each in their own place? I didnt say gangsta rap was merely about 'mourning', I said it was (overwhelmingly) about 'ghetto tragedy'. Well, it did the best job possible in conveying it, and as such it goes into pop music's genre hall of fame. What I like about Eminem - well, one of the things I like about him - is that he conveys the 'ghetto tragedy' thing (or, lessay, 'trailer park tragedy') as proudly and effectively as anyone, but added an extra dimension, altogether. Oh, and Craven is right about funny, too :- )
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 04:36 pm
nimh can we split this into it's own discussion? It's damn interesting and I hope more people see it).

I need to say that I have no particular qualm with eminem. He is a good rapper and his shock-jock style gets him a bad rap.

As to female rappers I know only a few. And most of them were trying to pose as gangsta's too "armed from my tits to my clit..." (I believe that was lil' kim). Maybe Lisa Lopez has touched on some of that. dunno.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 04:47 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
nimh can we split this into it's own discussion? It's damn interesting and I hope more people see it).


err, yeh, sure, no problem - from where do you want to cut the above over into a new thread? (can one do such a thing, anyway?) or you wanna start from scratch? i'm not gonna be up for much longer ...
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 04:49 pm
Pick a post and i'll split from that point on to a new thread. Or we can split out specific posts to the new thread.

I'd need a title for the new thread though.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 05:27 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
Pick a post and i'll split from that point on to a new thread. Or we can split out specific posts to the new thread.


Eh. 'K .... Cool lessee, where did this start?
Oh yeh, Tyrius and his hip hop bounce.

So, that'd make it ... posts 157 (sans grape cough syrup, perhaps), 173, 191, 196, 197, 198, 199, 202, 208, 209, 212, 214, 216, 217, 218, 222, 224, 232, and everything from there?

Should make the discussion pretty complete <grins>.
(Hey, you're talking with an occasional perfectionist, here <g>)

Craven de Kere wrote:
I'd need a title for the new thread though.


"Foshizzle my nizzle"? <grins>
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 05:38 pm
Ok, I think I did it right.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 05:47 pm
Re: the whole "-izzle" thing, this thread is the first I've seen of it but when we were out today some local place was offering "Pizzle by the Sizzle" (which they explained in small type meant "Pizza by the Slice".) So that's pretty mainstream by now.

(Some of the urban dictionary definitions of "Pizzle", which I had just looked up earlier today, made me giggle when I saw that sign, tho.)
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 06:00 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
Ok, I think I did it right.


<giggles>

that musta been quite a puzzle

(oh god now i find myself thinking what "puzzle" means)
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Tyrius
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 06:12 pm
uh uh
check out my free style yo
my nizzle
you can kiss my aizzle
uh uh
wha?
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 06:31 pm
OK I guess I've mentioned these lyrics so often as an example, I feel I kinda owe it to post them (part, anyways).

(Note the difference in style with the more classical twist to the "mother" theme in the 2Pac lyrics Craven posted above. This one compares like ... Dean to Clinton <ahem>)

Quote:
I got some skeletons in my closet and I don't know if no one knows it.
So before they throw me inside my coffin and close it, I'ma expose it.
I'll take you back to '73 before I ever had a multi-platinum sellin' CD.
I was a baby, maybe I was just a couple of months.
My faggot father must have had his panties up in a bunch,
cuz he split. I wonder if he even kissed me goodbye.
No, I don't on second thought, I just fuckin' wished he would die.
I look at Hailie and I couldn't picture leavin' her side.
Even if I hated Kim, I'd grit my teeth and I'd try
to make it work with her at least for Hailie's sake.
I maybe made some mistakes but I'm only human.
But I'm man enough to face them today.
What I did was stupid, no doubt it was dumb,
but the smartest **** I did was take them bullets outa that gun.
Cuz id'a killed 'em, **** I would have shot Kim an' him both.
It's my life, I'd like to welcome y'all to The Eminem Show.

I'm sorry, Mama. I never meant to hurt you.
I never meant to make you cry,
but tonight I'm cleanin' out my closet.

Now I would never dis my own mama just to get recognition.
Take a second to listen before you think this record is dissin'
But put yourself in my position. Just try to envision
witnessin' your Mama poppin' prescription pills in the kitchen,
bitchin' that someone's always goin' throuh her purse and shits missin.'
Going through public housing systems, victim of Munchausen's syndrome.
My whole life I was made to believe I was sick when I wasn't
'til I grew up, now I blew up. It makes you sick to ya stomach,
doesn't it? Wasn't it the reason you made that CD for me, Ma?
So you could try to justify the way you treated me, Ma?
But guess what, yer gettin' older now and it's cold when your lonely.
An' Nathan's growin' up so quick, he's gonna know that your phoney.
And Hailie's getting' so big now, you should see her, she's beautiful.
But you'll never see her, she won't even be at your funeral.
See what hurts me the most is you won't admit you was wrong.
Bitch, do ya song. Keep tellin' yourself that you was a mom.
But how dare you try to take what you didn't help me to get.
You selfish bitch, I hope you fuckin' burn in hell for this ****.
Remember when Ronnie died and you said you wished it was me?
Well, guess what, I am dead. Dead to you as can be.

I'm sorry, Mama. I never meant to hurt you.
I never meant to make you cry,
but tonight I'm cleanin' out my closet.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2003 08:47 am
Really interesting to compare and contrast those two songs. I agree that the Eminem song is a lot more complex. The Tupac song is pretty straightforward -- I had a terrible childhood but I love my mama anyway.

Quote:
And even as a crack fiend mama
Ya always was a black queen mama


The Eminem one is saying something much more conflicted -- I hate my mama for all the horrible things she did to me, but I can't help but love her because she's my mama.

Quote:
You selfish bitch, I hope you fuckin' burn in hell for this ****.
Remember when Ronnie died and you said you wished it was me?
Well, guess what, I am dead. Dead to you as can be.

I'm sorry, Mama. I never meant to hurt you.
I never meant to make you cry,
but tonight I'm cleanin' out my closet.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 7 Sep, 2003 05:23 am
That is too funny ...

(Oh, btw, good post Sozobe Smile

So, few kids came to smoke their joints again outside, black kids this time (rather than the usual Moroccans) ... knock on the window, go, hey mister, can you play some music? Eminem, hip hop? All break out in an impromptu rap to underline which track they wanna hear. I'm all, sounds like you dont need no music! Anyways, I open the window so I can play some, & this guy tears the cd outa his discman & gives it to me to play. Guess what track 3 is? 2Pac's Dear Mama.

Heh. When stuff's around, its around, huh? :-)

(they be rapping along with it now)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 7 Sep, 2003 07:49 am
Cosmic! Wink
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 06:41 pm
Eminem -- When the music stops -- wrote:
If I,
were to die,
murdered in cold blood
tomorrow,
would you feel sorrow,
or show love,
or would it matter?
Could never be
the lead-off batter
if there ain't **** for
me to feed off,
I'm see-saw battlin'
but there's way
too much at stake
for me to be fake,
there's too much on my plate,
I done came way
too far in this game,
to turn and walk away,
and not say
what I got to say


So, there's this key moment in this movie, right, 8 mile road i mean, its a straightforward enough movie an' all, what he's heading for is this battle - the one stage where the guy can ever have the chance to be someone, to distinguish himself, to jumpstart and kick himself outa his life into that other, better place - cause his friends seem to be awright where they are, but he can see, even while he's fooling around, that its a trap, a dangerous trap he's been doomed to get stuck in, and he wont allow it, he wont allow himself, he gotta get out -

so up on the stage he goes for his very first battle - but he chokes - and his opponent gets to crow victory, and off he goes, into the threat of forever locked in loser life, and sure enuff, everything that follows goes wrong, he gets beat up, his girl goes off, he's down & out & humiliated, and there he is on stage again, with all his virtual weapons - speech, words, rhyme, instant improvisation, instant sarcasm, and urgent gotta-make-it willpower - one more chance, one last chance - to battle -

Eminem -- Lose yourself -- wrote:
You better lose yourself
in the music, the moment, you own it,
you better never let it go
You only get one shot,
do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes
once in a lifetime yo

No more games,
I'ma change
what you call rage
Tear this mothafuckin roof off
like 2 dogs caged
I was playin
in the beginnin,
the mood all changed
I been chewed up
and spit out
and booed off stage
But I kept rhymin
and stepwritin
the next cypher
Best believe
somebody's payin
the pied piper
All the pain inside
amplified by the
fact that I can't get
by with my nine to
five and I can't
provide the right type a
life for my family
Cause man, these goddam
food stamps don't buy diapers
And it's no movie,
there's no Michelle Pfeiffer,
this is my life
And these times are so hard
and it's getting even harder
Tryin to feed and water my seed, plus
Teeter-totter caught up
between being a father
and a prima donna
Baby mama drama's screamin on and
Too much for me
to wanna stay in one spot,
another jam or not
Has gotten me
to the point, I'm like a snail
I've got
to formulate a plot
or I end up in jail or shot
Success is my only mothafuckin option,
failure's not -
Mom, I love you,
but this trailer's got to go
I cannot grow old
in Salem's lot
So here I go its my shot
Feet fail me not
this may be
the only opportunity
that I got

You better lose yourself
in the music, the moment
You own it,
you better never let it go
You only get one shot,
do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes
once in a lifetime yo


And there he goes, and jus before he goes up his dim friend says something to him, like, whatcha gonna do if he (the rival from "The Free World") mentions this, that? And he realises, sees everything flash by, all the stuff that happened, the humiliation, could all be used against him, and on the spot he thinks of a new text, a new tack, and into battle he goes, in the name of those who are out and down and make that down be up:

Eminem -- Rabbit Battling Poppa D -- wrote:
Now, everybody from the 3-1-3
Put your motherfuckin' hands up and follow me
Everybody from the 3-1-3
Put your motherfuckin' hands up

Look, look
Now while he stands tough
Notice this man did not have his hands up

One, two, three
and to the four
One Pac, 2Pac, 3Pac, four
4Pac, 3Pac, 2Pac, one
You're Pac, he's Pac
No Pac, none

This guy ain't no motherfuckin' MC,
I know everything he's got to say against me
I am white, I am a fuckin' bum
I do live in a trailer with my mom
My boy Future is an Uncle Tom
I did get jumped
by all six of you chumps
And Wink did **** my girl
- I'm still standin' here screamin': "**** Tha Free World"!

Don't never try to judge me Dude,
you don't know what the **** I been through!

But I know something about you
You went to Cranbrook, that's a private school
What's the matter, dawg, you embarrassed?
This guy's a gangsta? His real name's Clarence
And Clarence lives at home with both parents,
And Clarence's parents have a real-good-marriage ...
He don't know how to battle
He's shook
'Cause ain't no such things
as halfway crooks

He's scared to death
He's scared to look
At his fuckin'yearbook
**** Cranbrook

**** a beat,
I go a cappella,
**** a Papa Doc,
**** a clock,
**** a trailer,
**** everybody
**** y'all if you doubt me !
I'm a piece of fuckin' white trash,
I say it proudly

And **** this battle,
I don't want to win, I'm outtie

Here, tell these people something
they don't know about me ...
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 07:46 pm
Thing is - one thing that struck me, at the time, I mean, after we'd seen that movie and had talked about it and stuff ...

see, we cant all be gangstas (thank god), but doesnt mean we dont all have the same drives, motivations, urges inside some place still, to come up when the context makes them so.

I remembered (talking about that film), that when i first came to a2k - or a little while after i first came to a2k, i should say - i was pretty damn intense - angry - tense. I was so very surprised when craven, a few months later, called me "the diplomat" of a2k ... because i distinctly remember a period of time (which may have resurfaced a little bit this past week or two/three), where what i was basically doing here was - battling. I mean - bottom line - there was (and sometimes is) much of the same drive.

Think about it. He's on stage, he's listening to the other guy - he must absorb a maximum of information, text, points he can pick up on, pounce on, react to, outdo, put to rest - and then do that, on pure, instant improvisation, with maximum impact - and all he's got to do it with is his capacity for words. Hands up how many of you (if you've ever been on the Politics threads) have ever caught yourself posting in much of that mode.

Like I said, there was a span of time where I did mostly that - even if, apparently, I phrased it all politely enough still, in the eyes of some - the mode was still the same. Focused, concentrated - scrutinising the opponent's submissions, seeking, analysing what the main point is, what the points are that are not right - picking up the core of what you disagreed with, the thing that did it - and hone and hone and hone your own message in response, until it fits, until youve made it so as to - positively neutralise that objectionable core - and what you say stands. I think I went for that and succeeded in it some - half dozen, a dozen times, perhaps. Until its the other's turn again, and you can expect him to do the very same thing, and beat you at it. Crudeness or rudeness of argument has nothing to do with it - the most carefully phrased posts can sometimes have been drafted for max impact.

Cant say thats what these forums were meant for - or that thats what I came here for, at all, or like to catch myself doing - or even that I was always any good at it. But it was definitely in there, at least part of the time - the parallel was striking enough, once I'd seen it.

(I've also often enough asked myself why - especially if, some late night, I eyed myself up in puzzlement, when spending some exorbitant amount of time on drafting a post on god knows what - the state of buddhism in uzbekistan - animal abuse in birma ... lord knows it was different on abuzz - i was never like that, there. Yeh, in the beginning, when I came to post on the Presidential elections - but soon I found comfort and whimsical creativity there, instead. Here I still find myself battling sometimes - too often.

What was going on, in my life or in my head, that made me need to do that? There was a time when I felt so extremely stifled about tackling things in real life - when, for a variety of private reasons, I felt I could never speak out, speak up, about my feelings, problems - my thoughts, even, when it concerned my personal life - I thought that may have been the reason why it was so very important to at least be able to speak out - phrase, draft and complete - my thoughts about Bangladeshi Leninism to some comparatively undisprovable perfection. Could well be that. Or, alternatively, the sheer need to assert yourself - to enter and fight the kind of battles, the equivalents of which in real life you could not afford to even take up ...

And how different are politicians from those hip hop battlers, when it comes to personal motivation? How much personal issues of intensity are invested in their verbal battles?

Moreover, how different, yet how near are the realms of words and real weapons - how easy do they bleed through into another? 'S been enough political radicalinskis who grabbed guns instead of metaphors to try finish off the fight ... perhaps thats the same kind of bleed-through whot happened to hip-hop, too, when the battle on the stage - itself already, and originally, a mere sublimation of real-life turf violence - inversely bled through into settling on-stage accounts with off-stage weapons, with rival hip hop crews killing each others figureheads off ...

Eminem -- When the music stops -- wrote:
see me leap out, pull a piece out,
**** shootin', I'm just tryin' to knock his teeth out
**** with me now bitch, let's see you freestyle,
talk is cheap, ************,
if you really feelin' froggish, leap

yo Slim, you gon' let him get away with that?
He tried to play you, you can't let him skate with that!

man I hate this crap,
this ain't rap,
this is crazy
the way we act,
when we confuse hip hop
with real life
when the music stops
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 08:08 pm
<hand up>

My taste for it comes and goes. I also have spent ridiculous amounts of time on these things. (And I think the time thing is in and of itself an indication of diplomacy... the ones who are hurling insults are not necessarily taking the time to make sure they are correct or to find out if there is something about what "the other side" is saying that may be correct.)

I think this stuff comes in part from a need for order, control. I usually like order. I usually like control. Life as a stay-at-home mom is notably lacking in both. I mean, I'm the head honcho, so there's a certain amount of control there, but at the same time, if I want nothing more than to sit and read a novel for a while, and the kid is not in the mood, too bad. There's nothing that I can do about it, and my life is infinitely easier if I roll with the punches, go with the flow, let things happen. That's kind of contrary to my basic personality -- I was very, very, very happy when I was working, sitting in my office in the middle of everything, having total control over what happened, final say, able to fix problems, receiving gratitude on a daily basis -- and so while I am able to shift into the more free-flowing mode, it's hard.

And when I am feeling most out of control, one thing I like to do is to have very precise, measured, well-thought-out, controlled debates. I like my mind when it is orderly, and that occasionally helps.
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