Genetic Death: What the Nazis Saw in Darwinism

That's twice i've made that error in a few days. In my last post but one, it should read imminent economic collapse, not eminent.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

The Nazis only 'borrowed' the term 'Übermensch' from Nietzsche's writings.

Amigo wrote:
Like the christians the Nazis were nihilist.

You seem to use terms without understanding them.

You might be right.

I just had a dream. I dreamed I was digging a ditch when this beautiful christian woman came up to the top of the ditch. She was so beautiful it made me think "why would anybody ever want to destroy instead of create".

The woman saw me day dreaming at her and said "Hey! You! Get back to work!"

and I thought to myself "As long as I am productive the christians won't kill me"

Or was she a Nazi? the ubermench! A Jew? Columbus?

It seems they were continually getting ready for some great war, the endless war, manifest destiny. And anything that was not useful for the great war would be destroyed. I don't know. I don't understand.

Their goal, their destiny, their prophecy appeared to be apocalypse.

And then I woke up and logged on to A2K

But I better go back to sleep I have to go to work tomorrow. Perhaps they might have me dig a ditch. Who knows.

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I've a pretty good idea what Freud would have said about that.

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Re: Genetic Death: What the Nazis Saw in Darwinism

gungasnake wrote:

OGIONIK wrote:

THEY WASTED AN ENTIRE COUNTRIES RESOURCES ON DESTROYING RACES THAT THE KIDS WHO PICKED ON POOR OL HITLER IN SCHOOL WERE DESCENDED FROM. I GUESS A JEW RIPPED HITLER OFF AND HE NEVER SHOOK THE GRUDGE. OR HE TEASED HIM, WHO CARES.

THEY WOULD BE THE ONES WHO DIDNT MAKE IT THROUGH THE GRINDER, THEREFORE THEY ARE DEFYING THEIR OWN LOGIC BY BEING IDIOTIC AND IGNORANT AND THINKING THEY SHOULD PASS ON THEIR GENES, RIGHT?
PARADOX, OXYMORON? WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

Hey, I never said any of this **** made sense; all I'm claiming is that this is what was going on in those people's minds 70 years ago and it starts with a super dickhead by the name of Chuck Darwin.

did darwin really convert to christianity on his deathbed? (or something similar?) or retract all his ideas and theories?

lol evolution has been popping into my head lately, i was just wondering why living things look like buildings, with "frames"(skeletons) etc..

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spendius wrote:

I've a pretty good idea what Freud would have said about that.

"Ich kann die Gestapo jedermann aufs beste empfehlen." (Ican heartily recommend the Gestapo to anyone.)

Thta's what he had to write after they released him for emigration.

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spendius wrote:

I've a pretty good idea what Freud would have said about that.

Would he have said something like this;

" Nietzsche states that a consequence of the "Will to Power" is the exploitation of man by man, and this exploitation is the essence of life. What does he mean by this statement? Is exploitation a basic biological function of living things?

For Nietzsche, the Will to Power is the dominant principle of organic function. Without the Will to Power exploiting the sentimental weaknesses of equality among people, society cannot develop. The Will to Power is the Will to Life." -some dude

"man is nothing else but what he makes of himself" -Sartre

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In public the world points the finger at the Nazi/German incinerators in sentimental self-righteousness proclaiming "never again".

But in private, in the basement were we truly exsist we keep the incinerators burners red hot. Hotter and longer then the Nazis ever did.

Man is a hipocrite and is to weak to take responsibility for what he is.

What man really beleives is that the only thing he can really do wrong is lose the war at which point they will take all his $hit and put his mass graves on display.

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It's all a load of circulating tautology and self justification.

The Marquis de Sade had analysed the dynamic of the relationship between will and imagination 100 years earlier.

Technically sadism refers to the gaining of pleasure through the exercise of the will. Associating such pleasure with pain is algolagnia. It is sadistic to coiffure a garden or a poodle. Or to govern. At any level. If the power is actively sought I mean. Power can be thrust upon a person as with a king in a hereditary line.

Sadism might be said to be constructive in such cases and destructive in pyrotechnic activities say.

The will to power requires somebody to excercise the power on who may well take pleasure in the role. The masochist.

Little girls learn the pleasures of the exercise of the will from making dolls do this and that. It never leaves them I'm afraid. It's why some men would never vote for a woman. Mrs Thatcher had a bad dose. I bet she smacked her doll's bottoms. Somebody should ask Mrs Clinton whether she smacked her doll's bottoms in her formative years.

But, jesting aside, it takes the will to set the imagination in motion. Once the will starts the imagination off in thinking about how the self would run the country or the schools or its house it gets the bug.

Those who sit in awe gobsmacked at it all, like me, and fascinated, never get themselves into the tangles Nietzsche got into.

But somebody has to do it and we choose from a bunch of sadists who have the bug the worst. Darwinists are all sadists of course.

I think Freud might have said that you have an ambivalent relationship with the female sex. They must have both comforted you in distress and coerced your natural freedoms possibly with punishments and thus you both love them and are frightened of them at the same time.

Your dream woman, who would obviously be beautiful because it is your dream and also because a terrifying ogre would not serve your dilemma, is associated with digging a ditch for a range of possible reasons such as it is an image of the tribulations of life; the spade being a projection of your ego. To put it bluntly.

You didn't say whether you obeyed her orders.

I would have told her to piss off.

Dylan says that he doesn't take any notice of dreams. He just has them.

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Yes I see. You are very smart. You have given me more to think about. For a minute there I thought I was becoming the Mexican Ubermensch.

The UBERMEX! Yes? No?

After thanksgiving (wich was very short lived) she went Nietzche on us with a cross and a gun so we tried to tell her to piss off but she was like a machine, a darwin machine. We lost. So we signed a treaty. She broke it.

Then years later in a little high school in East L.A. called Garfield her daughter took a liking to a suave Latino and BAM!

They had a son. Half white and half mexican and baptized under a cross.(Me)

Except is it the reconquista or manifest destiny?

There are alot of mexicans in Iraq and their not fighting for Nazis. Laughing

No I didn't go to work and I don't pay taxes. That lady can piss off.

P.S. That wasn't a real dream I was just demonstating to Walter that I did understand What nihilism was ans my rational with compairing the christian and the Nazi to the Nietzsche nihilist.

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From the 1930s thru the 1950s, Garfield High was predominantly non-Hispanic white. However, since the 1960s, the majority of student body has been Hispanic. [1]

The school had a total of 4620 students in the 2005-2006 school year; 99.26% of the students were identified as Hispanic[2].

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Ubermex . . . now that really cracked me up . . . Super Beaner ! ! !

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Amigo wrote:

From the 1930s thru the 1950s, Garfield High was predominantly non-Hispanic white. However, since the 1960s, the majority of student body has been Hispanic. [1]

The school had a total of 4620 students in the 2005-2006 school year; 99.26% of the students were identified as Hispanic[2].

The Los Angeles coastal area was first settled by the Tongva (or Gabrieleños) and Chumash Native American tribes thousands of years ago. The first Europeans arrived in 1542 under João Cabrilho, a Portuguese explorer who claimed the area as the City of God for the Spanish Empire but continued with his voyage and did not establish a settlement.[4] The next contact would not come until 227 years later when Gaspar de Portola, together with Franciscan missionary Juan Crespi, reached the present site of Los Angeles on August 2, 1769. Crespi noted that the site had the potential to be developed into a large settlement.[5]

In 1771, Franciscan friar Junipero Serra built the Mission San Gabriel Arcangel near Whittier Narrows, in what is now called San Gabriel Valley.[6] In 1777, the new governor of California, Felipe de Neve, recommended to the viceroy of New Spain that the site recommended by Juan Crespi be developed into a pueblo. The town was founded on September 4, 1781 by a group of 44 settlers and was named "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula," ("The Town of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels on the River Porciúncula").[7] These settlers were of Filipino, Native American, African, and Spanish ancestry, with two-thirds being mestizo or mulatto.

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spendius wrote:

But somebody has to do it and we choose from a bunch of sadists who have the bug the worst. Darwinists are all sadists of course.

I don't think The marquis de Sade or Caesar is waiting to be chosen by a bunch of loosers of inaction, morals and philosophy any more then the Christains, the Nazis or the Jews did.

Words are dead things. That is why we are followers and Jesus is Jesus. We are men of inaction.

But if it makes you feel better to say we choose them ....OK. Religion and belief systems are spread by the sword not by reason or logic. (A truth which Gunga will remain absent to.)

Reason and logic over the sword is reserved for the freethinker, he is the first to go. The rest become Christians or Nazis.

The freethinker he is 1%

P.S. Buddhism was spread by mouth.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

Amigo wrote:
From the 1930s thru the 1950s, Garfield High was predominantly non-Hispanic white. However, since the 1960s, the majority of student body has been Hispanic. [1]

The school had a total of 4620 students in the 2005-2006 school year; 99.26% of the students were identified as Hispanic[2].

The Los Angeles coastal area was first settled by the Tongva (or Gabrieleños) and Chumash Native American tribes thousands of years ago. The first Europeans arrived in 1542 under João Cabrilho, a Portuguese explorer who claimed the area as the City of God for the Spanish Empire but continued with his voyage and did not establish a settlement.[4] The next contact would not come until 227 years later when Gaspar de Portola, together with Franciscan missionary Juan Crespi, reached the present site of Los Angeles on August 2, 1769. Crespi noted that the site had the potential to be developed into a large settlement.[5]

In 1771, Franciscan friar Junipero Serra built the Mission San Gabriel Arcangel near Whittier Narrows, in what is now called San Gabriel Valley.[6] In 1777, the new governor of California, Felipe de Neve, recommended to the viceroy of New Spain that the site recommended by Juan Crespi be developed into a pueblo. The town was founded on September 4, 1781 by a group of 44 settlers and was named "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula," ("The Town of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels on the River Porciúncula").[7] These settlers were of Filipino, Native American, African, and Spanish ancestry, with two-thirds being mestizo or mulatto.

Walter, I grew up running around all those areas (literally). My Grandfather crossed the Boarder as an orphan after his dad died fighting the Mexican revolution and started a family in East L.A. finishing concrete. Me and my dad used to go gambaling at the Chumash indian casino.

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Hey- I wouldn't have minded having had a do at that.

As long as I was losing I mean.

Winning can get you in the ****.

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I don't understand

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I assume then that the Chumash had been brought to see the value of Christian thinking.

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