In US we have the Romnichalii, pavee, the "Irish Travellers" . ALl have a separatist culture whose morality includes preying on the defenseless of the the rest of us, the"gadje" or "minghini" (not sure of the spelling).
There are so many scam artists of gypsy culture who run "home improvement" frauds all up and down the East Coast of the US.
Im not really too sympathetic to their rights ecept under the Miranda decree and presumption of innocense.
At a sentencing hearing in SC a few years ago, a gypsy "clan" ran a roofing scam from their mansions in Edgefield SC, in their allocution they merely stated that,with respect tohow they continued these scams, they tried to give it some sense of purpose in the eyes of their clans. Its almost like they were saying"its what we do"
My mom was ripped off by a gypsy siding company by making a series of "down payments" to have a large outbuilding sided in cement tiles. These guys had no experience and werent even licensed. By the time I became aware of her plight, it was at a family dinner after about a month after she made the payments. We knew who did the scamming but noone could prosecute because the laws that they broke were local and had no "interstate" scma potential. My mom was out about 8K, not a big amount nfor her, but it left her with a sense that she didnt know how to trust any future contractors without getting us in the family involved.
farmer, what does that have to do with education policies in central europe?
you know, not all gypsies in this world are scum. where i come from, most are trying to make it, and are constantly smacked on their head by society's disapproval, discrimination and racial prejudices and stereotypes. our employment policy used to allow to put 'R' on job applications. nobody hires the roma. vast majority is unemployed. our doctors used to sterilize roma women without their knowledge (forget even approval) - another of our roma scandals.. i could go on and on. i have been through most of our roma settlement, in fact i grew up right next to one. there are stark cultural differences, but that is no ground for sending somebody's children to school for mentally retarded... or i'm actually not sure what your post was trying to say on the topic other than your contempt for the whole group.
i myself was pick-pocketed by a Roma once. Also by a Spaniard in Spain and once by a kid in Ukraine... that is no ground for dismissal of all roma, all spaniards, and all ukrainians.
i often wondered - if i was born in a segregated settlement with no infrastructure to a group of people that was shunned for centuries (documented well back to the 12th century... e.g. 'fox hunts' on gypsies, expelling, roma holocaust,...), in combination with social discrimination (historically no access to education or better paying jobs or services) and against whom the dominant culture is so antagonistic and resentful, i wonder what would i be like? what kind of a person would i grow up to be?
resentment is easy. and there are many social and cultural reasons for it. what is the solution though? certainly not mentally retarded institutions, forced sterilizations, or removing children forcibly from parents and sticking them into orphanages. sorry to go on a tirade, but this topic is very important to me and i do get emotional... and i do realize that.
Meanwhile, the Slovak vice prime minister for minorities and the slovak plenipotentiary for the roma issues denied the accusations as false. they may have denied the nose between their eyes just as well, as there are plentiful statistics.
eh, gotta go calm down.