Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 08:31 pm
I don't mean to be too mean, as I've liked very much some nuns who taught me in my life, but I have a sardonic view of this news story -


sardonic at least in part because I was manipulated when seventeen to join the convent, and managed to get unmanipulated just in time.



LINK to BBC story on feuding nuns of Bari


I want to laugh, but also feel sorry for them.

And you?
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 08:42 pm
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Sisters Annamaria and Gianbattista say they were driven to distraction by the nasty habits of their Mother Superior.

They became so angry that during the summer, they turned on Sister Liliana scratching her face and throwing her to the ground.


I wonder what nasty habits Mother Superior had? Wait, do they mean a pattern of behavior or her robe?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 08:45 pm
Nasty habits - seems like the start of a song...
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lezzles
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 10:43 pm
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So badly did relations deteriorate between the sisters of Santa Clara in Bari that the Mother Superior ended up in hospital with scratches to her face...........She has not once left the nunnery in 44 years and she is not about to be pushed about now......


If she ended up in hospital, how can they say she has not once left the nunnery in 44 years?

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.........But Sister Liliana, the only nun still there, says she has no intention of leaving her home of the past 44 years............. And since she is devoted to her vow of silence it is not that easy to reason with her.


If she is devoted to her vow of silence, how could she say she has no intention of leaving?

While it certainly sounds as though things are grim at the convent, the report seems to be just another 'let's-put-the-boot-into-the-nuns-while-they're-down-because-they-don't-fight-back-and-it's-always-good-for-a-laugh' opportunity for some half baked hack.

osso, I too know very well what nuns can be like - you get the really sincere women who have a true calling and do their best to help wherever and however they can and you get the pure sadists who (I believe) have hidden in the sisterhood because they are too gutless to face the world and who spend their days making life a misery for everyone around them. I clearly recall using the term 'you unmitigated bitch' in conversation with one such 'lady' many moons ago. However, I did at least make a point of saying it to her face so she could have the opportunity to reply, not publishing bullshit about her as the BBC has done in this case.

Sorry dear, didn't mean to get serious, but you did invite opinion.....
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smorgs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 11:50 pm
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If she is devoted to her vow of silence, how could she say she has no intention of leaving?


Maybe she wrote it on a communion wafer, in tiny writing...

"Piss off, I'm not going anywhere, I've been here over forty years, and it's become a habit".

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 10:14 am
Yes, I probably have some unresolved hostility for enjoying the article. I took some of the same sections you quoted, Lezzles, as weird or hilarious. Which of course illustrates your point. I just don't feel badly about it.

Probably a case of there but for the grace <sardonic> go I.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 10:29 am
i find it funny, too. i have no personal experience with nuns of any sort. i don't find it malicious either- it's not like i wish this upon the nuns, but that doesn't mean it cannot be funny. i've had plenty of mishaps in life i wouldn't want to go through again, but which i find funny nonetheless.
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smorgs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 12:08 pm
I'm convent educated... (that's why I'm thick)

I find it hilarious.

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 12:13 pm
catholic girls....
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 12:17 pm
Oh, and you ain't thick, smorgy - I've read some of your serious posts.
Also find you a very quick wit.
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smorgs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 12:32 pm
Why thank you.

Praise from osso...

I think I'm more sarcastic than witty, though I try not to be, I just can't help it!

I blame nuns.

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lezzles
 
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Reply Fri 5 Oct, 2007 05:37 pm
Sorry if I blew my mind - I do get sensitive over people having a go at nuns sometimes. There is currently an ad for Optus on Oz tv where a bunch of 'cool dude' emperor penguins are cruising the street in a 50/60's yellow caddy convertible and they start trying to attract the attention of a lady penguin walking along the street by the usual 'whoo whoo' and cat-calls. As they get closer to her, she turns and it can be seen that she is, of course a nun. The 'boys' slide down in their seats, dying of embarrassment. I laugh myself silly whenever I see it. Go figure! Rolling Eyes
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 5 Oct, 2007 05:53 pm
Well...
I have, as I said, some nuns I loved as a child and some I think were responsible for years of Inculcation to my Brain - I'll avoid the word abuse, but certainly they were a campaigning group.

I wanted to be a doctor, figured I had to be single (too complicated/warped to explain fast, had to do with vocations and the understanding in medicine at that time that women were a waste to train as mds), and four of my teachers came at me that I had a vocation to be a nun, even my bright chem teacher, who said she had a dream... I resent this even now, a half century later.)

One of the good ones, in an entirely different order, not so rigid, a woman I didn't know all that well, older sister to a friend of mine, was quite the liberal activist, very early in the day on all that. (You can tell I think that is a good thing, in the US).

Alas, there's more bad news.. local to my last area..


LA Times -
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-nuns7sep07,0,1506149.story?coll=la-home-center


in the Washington Post -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/03/AR2007100302353.htm

I gather from my latest googling, there are new devilopments.
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lezzles
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 06:12 am
Sorry osso, the Washington Post article has been removed, so I can't comment on that.

However, the LA Times story is pretty heartbreaking. That 'total obedience to the male heirarchy' thing is the one that I could not live with. I have never considered myself to be a lesser being than a male of the species and there is no way I could go quietly after being kicked out of my home to pay for the 'monstors'. I'll bet the bishop isn't giving up his palace.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:51 am
Latest I've seen -
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-nuns11sep11,1,6264950.story
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