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What BOOK are you reading right now?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2013 10:14 pm
@ossobuco,
I've one of Alexander Theroux's art books on my finely wrought garden shelves of art books held by bungie straps... but admit to not having read it yet.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2013 02:40 pm
@Lordyaswas,


i gave up on reading or trying to read mysteries a long time ago, but this one has piqued my interest.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 29 Dec, 2013 10:32 pm
http://www.rusoffagency.com/covers/nonfiction/KabulBeautySchool_300_450_100.jpg
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jan, 2014 06:45 pm
I need material for teaching and so I went to the local used book store. Because I was looking for books/short stories on teaching, journalism, The Protestant Reformation and national security, I went in search of Graham Greene's The Quiet American (which I haven't found yet) and Louisa May Alcott's Jo's Boys. As I went through the shelves I found a "New Grub Street" by George Gissing and bought it because it sounded promising.

I read a great deal of Alcott and found it still made me a little weepy. The Gissing book is better than I expected to be although not entirely useful for my purposes because it covers so many aspects of life. Reading Gissing and Alcott back-to-back, it was easy to see how 19th C authors were concerned about making money, making art, personal integrity and originality. Things really haven't changed much.

I found a pseudonymously written novel about the Reformation called Q on amazon.com. It arrived today. 750 pages! Yikes! I looked at few pages throughout the book and I don't think I will like it. The four authors who collectively are known as Luther Blissett carry on the myth that Luther nailed his 95 thesis to the door of Wittenberg Cathedral.

Was the Reformation the reason Hamlet went to Wittenberg?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jan, 2014 10:15 pm
@ossobuco,
I'm in the middle of reading Orhan Pamuk's My Name is Red - it has taken me a while but I am liking it..
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jan, 2014 10:24 pm
@plainoldme,
There are mysteries and mysteries. Not all are formulaic. I'll agree a lot are. I mostly read police procedurals for sense of place, but sometimes they are better than that.

On the other hand, I can never make myself read much of science fiction. I simply don't care about much that others love reading about.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jan, 2014 10:30 pm
@ossobuco,
I read The Quiet American at the time.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jan, 2014 11:45 pm
@ossobuco,
I read it after I saw the remake of the movie with Michael Caine and Brendan Fraser. I liked both the book and movie but I remember one of the righties here complaining about the movie because his favorite part of the book was left out.

I gave up trying to read mysteries years ago and am much happier for that decision. This followed a long period when people were trying to convince me that I should read them and gave me books which I never could get into.

However, after taking a degree in political science, I went to grad school in English so that I could find books I wanted to finish, so my "lack of success" with mysteries doesn't surprise me.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jan, 2014 11:56 pm
@plainoldme,
I'll not take that as a slam at me. We have different interests, and I like procedurals for a useful way for a quick take about the world, and cultures. Of course they are not slam dunks on social anthropology, and may be near the opposite, but I like visiting other places, and some of those writers are not stupid.

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RonPrice
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2014 10:35 pm
@littlek,
I am reading Leo Damrosch's Jonathan Swift, and I've written about it as follows:

SWIFT
...but unobtrusive

Jonathan Swift(1667-1745) is a problem for readers and biographers we are informed in a recent biography, and I have experienced this fact as well. The cast of characters in his life grew much larger as he grew older. It can be hard to keep them straight.(1) There are royalty and aristocracy, statesmen and politicians, clergymen and laymen, friends and enemies, the high and the low, lots of women from queens and duchesses down to servants and everything in between, including two beloved lovers. Trying to keep them straight may, indeed, be impossible but the story, as told by Leo Damrosch, can be enjoyed regardless. -Ron Price with thanks to (1)John Simon "A Giant Among Men," a review in The New York Times, 27/11/'13, of Leo Damrosch's Jonathan Swift,’ Yale UP, 600 pages, 2013, p. 178.

Readers won't have that problem
with my autobiography and life-
narrative even though there is a
galaxy, a myriad, & bucket-fulls
of people in my life, gazing as I
am at the last 70 years of my life.

All this flotsam and jetsam are kept
in their little places in my letters and
my computer directory, tied-up in the
bundles of paper and vast tracts of new
cyberspace, the WWW, & the internet.

This narrative keeps most of them
far away from the main plot, & an
analysis which goes on for over 5
volumes and 2600 pages....It will
dry-out the average reader before
he or she gets too far. Sadly, too,
readers of my work will not enjoy
the humour and immensely clever
wit of this novelist, essayist, poet,
satirist, epistolarian, and political
pamphleteer as they wade through
my millions of words on their way,
such is my hope, to illuminating a
journey of understanding of what is
the greatest spiritual narrative in the
long history of civilization, narrative
that is at the heart of the transformation
of a heterodox and seemingly negligible
offshoot of the Shaykhi school of the
Ithna-Ashariyyih sect of Shi'ah Islam1
into a world religion which in the years
ahead in this, and future centuries, will
take this world by an unobtrusive storm,
at least in the years that have been my life.

1 God Passes by, Shoghi Effendi, Baha'i Pub., Trust, Wilmette, 1957, p. xii.

Ron Price
7/12/'13 to 9/1/'14


glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2014 10:54 pm
@RonPrice,
Trying to read "The Graves Are Walking, The Great Famine and the Saga of the Irish People" by John Kelly. Just started, it's not a cheerful story but parts of my family emigrated to America in search of a better life. The Irish were not embraced, just as all other groups were not immediately embraced. I'll let you know how it goes.
RonPrice
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2014 11:07 pm
@littlek,
PINNING

Part 1:

Margaret Atwood, famous Canadian writer, said in an interview in 1978: “I began writing at the age of 5, but there was a dark period between the ages of 8 and 16 when I didn't write. I started again at 16. And have no idea why, but it was suddenly the only thing I wanted to do.” My life-narrative with writing was very different from Atwood’s. I did not have the feeling that writing was “the only thing I wanted to do” until 1992, and insensibly and increasingly until I retired from teaching in 1999. By then I was 55.

Atwood also made the comment that in North America people have “a somewhat romantic notion….about what an author is. They think of "writing" not as something you do but as something you are. The writer is seen as "expressing" herself; therefore, her books must be autobiographical. If the book were seen as something made, like a pot, we probably wouldn't have this difficulty.” As a North American, and until the age of 25 a resident of Canada, I hold some of this romantic view. As a person who has lived more than half his life in the Antipodes I see my writing a little like a pot.

Part 2:

Atwood went on to say: “My parents were great readers. They didn't encourage me to become a writer, exactly, but they gave me a more important kind of support; that is, they expected me to make use of my intelligence and abilities but did not pressure me(and I paraphrase) in any particular direction. My mother was rather exceptional in this respect from what I can tell from the experiences of other young people my own age. Remember that all this was taking place in the 1950's, when marriage was seen as the only desirable goal and parents pushed their kids this way and that.” This could very well describe my parents. My mother, like Atwood’s, was a very lively person who would rather read poetry than scrub floors. My father scrubbed a lot of floors and did many things in life I scarcely appreciated back then. -Ron Price with thanks to Margaret Atwood in “Margaret Atwood: Poet,” Joyce Carol Oats, New York Times on the Web, May 21st 1978.

I am absolutely dependent on the details
of the material world to make a space
for my prose-poetry to move around in.

It's dangerous to lift a statement out of
context, out of my poem, and take it as
my view, the poet’s view. The cultural
attitudes in poems are not invented by
poets; they’re reflections of something
the poet sees in the society around him.

Yeats once said that solitary imagination
makes and unmakes mankind and even
the world itself, for does not the 'eye alter
all'?.......Poetry is one of those things that
can't ever be quite pinned down, but still
I do a lot of pinning….I’ve been pinning
for years, and I’ll be pinning for years.1

1 Much of this prose-poem is taken from this interview published in The New York Times seven months before I left Ballarat for Tasmania.

Ron Price
28/5/’06 to 26/5/’13.
ATWOOD LUTHER AND ME

Margaret Atwood(1939- ) is a Canadian poet, novelist, literary critic, essayist, and environmental activist. She graduated from high school in Toronto the year I entered my last year of primary school in Burlington just 30 miles away: 1957. We are both war-babies or members of what some social scientists call the silent generation. Atwood was always about 5 years ahead of me since she was born at the start of the war, while I was born toward its end.

Considered by one generational descriptor as “cautious, unimaginative and withdrawn,” members of our generation, the war-babies, grew up in the late 1940s and 1950s at a time of social conformity and, “looking for a type of rebirth.”1 They needed a cause. Both Atwood and I only fit some aspects of this generation descriptor. We both needed a cause. For me it became the Baha’i Faith. Atwood is one of Canada’s most successful writers with more than a dozen volumes of poetry and 20 volumes of prose to her credit.

Atwood got her M.A. in 1962 in literature, the same year I finished my last year of hometown baseball, entered my last year of high school and began my travelling-pioneering for the Canadian Baha’i community in the small town of Dundas Ontario. As my teaching career developed from primary, to secondary, to post-secondary levels, and as I travelled and worked from town to town in both Canada and Australia, in the late ‘60s and ‘70s, Atwood published book after book. She was catapulted to celebrity status in 1972, the first year I left Canada and began living in Australia as an international pioneer from Canada, the year I helped establish the first locally elected Baha’i assembly in the steel-port city of Whyalla South Australia, and in western and central Australia outside of the capital cities.

Her book: Survival provided for Canadians like myself a wonderful insight into Canadian literature and into our very sense of identity.2-Ron Price with thanks to 1M. Nowak and D.T. Miller, The Fifties: The Way We Really Were, Doubleday & Co. Inc., N.Y. 1977, p.18; and 2Joyce Carol Oates, “Margaret Atwood’s Tale,” The New York Review of Books, 2 November 2006.

Yes, Margaret Atwood, I liked
your characterization and your
leitmotifs of Canadians about a
sense of survival….not triumph
or victory, like the Americans,
and not about those who made it….
but those who made-it-back……

I made it back, Margaret, from a
Baffin Island crash: ‘here I stand’
as Martin Luther said about half a
millennium ago at the outset of a
Protestant-German Reformation.1

1 Luther is sometimes quoted as saying: "Here I stand. I can do no other". Recent scholars consider the evidence for these words to be unreliable, since they were inserted before "May God help me" only in later versions of the speech and not recorded in witness accounts of the proceedings. -Richard Marius, Luther, Quartet, London, 1975, p.155.

Ron Price
8/1/’12 to 26/5/’13.
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MY STORY IS DIFFERENT, MARGARET

The writer, the poet, is an observer, a witness, and such observations are the air they breathe. The poem, the writing, is a vehicle, for their human responsibility. It is a form of testament, a form of eye-witness account, an I-witnessing. The overall opus can often be said to comprise one story. For Margaret Atwood it is what she calls the story of the disaster which is the world.1 For Ron Price it is what he calls Pioneering Over Five Epochs. Ron Price with thanks to 1Margaret Atwood in Women Writers: Margaret Atwood, Barbara Hill Rigney, Barnes and Noble Books, Totowa, NJ, 1987, p.17.

Yes, Margaret, there is pain, tragedy,
disaster, fatigue, fear and loathing in
this Age of Transition, & this eve of
destruction, in which I’ve played my
part. I’ve told it as I’ve seen it in all
these poems, Margaret, in this border
country, this half light, and this new
generation of dawnbreaking, in this
burgeoning world of the dazzling &
the chaotic, in this waiting world, the
not-yet-arrived, the not here yet, the
dream and the reality, the beginnings,
chrysalis, the endless repitition, & the
hearing of the story and its meaning
again and again until it has dried out
your soul inside of despair’s bleached
skull, as Roger White put it long ago.

Of course, there’s a flip-side, Margaret;
one of vision, of hope, where one can
just about taste the fragrances, rich &
deep, with meaning. And now, a place
where the light of the countenance of God1
shines before me like a beakon in the night.

1 Baha’u’llah, The Tablet of Carmel.

Ron Price
13/2/’99 to 26/5/’13.
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FULFILLING HIS TRUST

Margaret Atwood, Canadian author, explained how she wrote a series of poems that became The Journals of Susanna Moodie:1 “They came as separate poems and I had no idea when I began that I was going to end up with a book of that size. It wasn’t planned that way. I wrote twelve at first and stopped and thought, you know, this is just short of a long short poem, twelve short poems, that’s it. And then I started writing more of them but I didn’t know where it was going. I don’t write books of poetry as books. I don’t write them like novels.”22

My poetry was similar to Atwood’s in terms of the process of writing. My pieces too “came as separate poems and I had no idea when I began that I was going to end up with a book” or books of poems the size or the extent to which I now have. “It wasn’t planned that way;” I wrote some 200 poems until the age of 47; of these I kept about 170. That’s about 5 poems a year from adolescence, the age of 13, to 47--35 years—or a poem every 75 days. Not exactly prolific. “And then I started writing more of them” in 1992. “But I didn’t know where it was going.” In the years 1992 to 2005 I wrote some 6000 poems. “I don’t write books of poetry as books. I don’t write them like novels.” I write a batch of about 100 and put them in a plastic binding and give them to some Baha’i group.-Ron Price with thanks to 1Margaret Atwood, The Journals of Susanna Moodie, Oxford UP, Toronto, 1970; and 2Margaret Atwood in Graeme Gibson, Eleven Canadian Novelists, Anansi, Toronto, 1972, p.164.

This is no novel but there’s
a central character, a story,
a set of ideas, a philosophy,
a serendipitous arrangement,
sequentially ordered with pattern
and images in a clear, an especially
modern sensibility, millions of words.

There’s a darker side to this persona,
this self in society and its exploration
is part of the trip, the journey through
a complex society and a new religion,
a series of coming to terms with people,
jobs, self, religion, the land, change---
as a tempest sweeps the face of the earth
in unpredictable, unprecedented ways.

After seeing little meaning in my world
around me at the start of my pioneering
journey in ’62, slowly, a union, vision,
past, present and future fell before my eyes,
insinuating, unobtrusive, with wonder,
awe, the foundation of the poetic me1
in a poem that is never finished and
helps me fulfill in my life His trust.2

1 D. H. Lawrence quoted in The Psychic Mariner: A Reading of the Poems of D.H. Lawrence, Tom Marshall, Heinemann, London, 1970, p.3. 2 Baha’u’llah, Hidden Words, p.1

Ron Price
September 18th 2005
MORE TRUSTWORTHY?

Yesterday, while reading in the Launceston library I read some of a biography of Margaret Atwood. On the front page it read: Never trust biographies. Too many events in a man's life are invisible, as unknown to others as our dreams. The autobiographer, on the other hand, can tell of these invisible events and of HIS dreams and, to that extent, autobiographies are potentially more trustworthy. My autobiography, spread over several genres, certainly tells of this invisible world, as best I can. It is my hope that it provides, not only a more trustworthy document but one that is a pleasure to read. -Ron Price with thanks to Anne Michaels in Margaret Atwood: A Biography, Nathalie Cooke, Ecw Press, Toronto, 1998, p.5

We need to feel we understand
the world we live in, making
sense of these our days with
a persuasive portrait of who
we are as people and what
our lives are or should be about---

can it be recorded here?
Is this philosophico-religious
vision of reality, with answers
and values to live by. This need,
for some, is a cry of anguish.1
With others there seems to be
no cry at all.

1 Ayn Rand's philosophy

Ron Price
7 November 2001
AMBIGUITY

Price’s poetic meanderings, his immersion in the process of defining his journey, is partly his way of discovering his past, his childhood, his ancestral roots, his psycho-history; partly his way of defining his identity, his complex personality, his many selves and what composed them; partly his way of giving form and substance to a religious conviction that had, in one way or another, consumed his life and given it meaning; and partly his way of giving expression to the relativity and multiplicity of truth’s many-coloured glass. -Ron Price with thanks to Margaret Atwood in Women Writers: Margaret Atwood, Barbara Hill Rigney, Barnes and Noble Books, Totowa, NJ, 1987.


Yes, Margaret, they defy classification:
men, women, ideas: gray, complicated,
multidimensional, like everything else.
Yet, we classify the ambiguous, the
inexact, the passionate waters, the
incorrigibly murky rivers of our days.

We strive for precision with our
fastidiousness and our disposition
to overcome the casual. With our
logic, our science and our desire
to sanitize our art we assault ambiguity
and create universal definitions.

In the end, though, we are left
with the subtle, the allusive, the
figurative, the nuances, the ironic,
the ambivalent, the handmaiden
of mysticism, a savoring of mystery:
ambiguity, the promoter of community
in our quest for meaning, our quest
beyond the univocal into a thousand
faces, a thousand voices, a thousand eyes.

Ron Price
13 February 1999
KEEPING IT IN

The novelists Iris Murdoch and Margaret Atwood1 say that people need secrets. They are a right and proper part of being human. The world today is obsessed with not having secrets, with letting it all hang out, with telling it all. These novelists argue that someone with no secrets is an impossibility. Beginning, perhaps, with St. Augustine, but certainly with the diarist Samuel Pepys in 1659-1669,2 we find men and women who loved themselves and from a fullness of their knowledge they felt a love for others. They were curious about the world; with their eyes and ears wide open they observed the world. With a genuine and sometimes superficial gregariousness Pepys hid his secret, self-obsessed, hermetic existence, the place where he wrote for himself in such a delightfully frank way with a special zest to tell it all and with fresh observational details and a less than deep analysis. -Ron Price with thanks to 1 Helen Elliott, "The Sting in the Tale," The Australian: The Review, 3 March 2001, pp.4-5 and 2 Robert Louis Stevenson, "Modern History Sourcebook," Samuel Pepys, 1886.

You can't tell it all:
that's plain to see.
Not everything can
be disclosed.
It's better to keep it in
sometimes, the wise course,
the sensible middle,
a question of timing,
suited to the ears,
the sane line.

I've said this before.
I don't tell it all;
I keep some back,
just about all the time,
in poems and in life.


Ron Price
3 March 2001






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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2014 11:19 pm
@glitterbag,
I recommend Nuala o'Faolain.

I'm just now donating a book of hers I like a great deal - her book, My Dream of You.


Many knives, the giving away of books.
RonPrice
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jan, 2014 03:27 am
@ossobuco,
I only recently came across, Nuala O'Faolain(1940- 2008), the Irish journalist, TV producer, book reviewer, teacher and writer. She became internationally well known for her two volumes of memoir, Are You Somebody? and Almost There; a novel, My Dream of You; and a history with commentary, The Story of Chicago May. The first three were all featured on The New York Times Best Seller list.

Her posthumous novel Best Love, Rosie was published in 2009. O'Faolain's formative years coincided with the emergence of the women's movement, and her ability to expose misogyny in all its forms was formidable, forensic and unremitting. However, O'Faolain's feminism stemmed from a fundamental belief in social justice. Unlike most commentators, who maintain a detached, lofty tone, O'Faolain, placed herself at the centre of things, a high-risk strategy that worked because of her broad range of erudition, worn lightly, her courage and a truthfulness that sometimes bordered on the self-destructive.

Thanks for mentioning this writer, ossobuco.-Ron
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jan, 2014 12:45 pm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/The_Sweetness_at_the_Bottom_of_the_Pie.jpg

I am madly in love with this book. Some perfect sentences in there.

Entertaining mystery and the heroine is a wonderfully unpleasant child.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jan, 2014 03:43 pm
@RonPrice,
You're welcome. I'm keeping the one of hers that is signed - Almost There. I still have keepsake tendencies even though I'm de-accessing or whatever is the correct word for getting rid of things. Haven't read the last two you mentioned.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jan, 2014 04:22 pm
@ossobuco,
I'm re-reading a few pages of Finnegans Wake. There are some perfect sentences in that. It's a litestarkly hexersize I bang on my ibals, and murch henjoyouslap, frae tamp to tump.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jan, 2014 04:43 pm
@spendius,
That probably hyrts.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jan, 2014 08:38 pm
@ossobuco,
It's around 80 degrees here in Waikiki. We had a little rain today as I was walking back to my nephew' s condo.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jan, 2014 03:18 pm
Crappy writing on a fascinating subject; the attempt to save art treasures from the Nazis in WWII.
The movie, directed by George Clooney comes out Feb 7th.
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