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What BOOK are you reading right now?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 06:53 am
dlowan wrote:


Lol! Ich habe ein bisschen Deutsch, aber nicht genug!


Pay additionally £16.49 for Oxford Take Off in German: A Complete Language Learning Pack: Complete Language Learning Pack - I'll give you a link for an excellent free German-English dictionary ... and with the rest of the saved money you have one day-off in a wellness-club or a subscription to a fashion magazine or whatever. Laughing
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 07:32 am
Thai for Beginners
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eoe
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 07:40 am
"What Looks Like Crazy on an Ordinary Day" by Pearl Cleage.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 09:01 am
dlowan -- I tried to find a book called Iona, Tara and Soissons and found it for 166 British pounds!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 09:04 am
The Professor by Charlotte Bronte was beckoning me. I bought it several years ago because a professor I had in my second run at graduate school mentioned it. Well, I picked it up last night and can not put it down.

The 19th C is a hoot. Most of the books seethe around the border of potboilership and have such highly formal and constructed language. The Brontes, however, were the psychologists of their day. Too bad they were born too soon.
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material girl
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 09:07 am
Is Wuthering heights by a Bronte?

Read that years ago and I can still say its my favourite story.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 12:18 pm
Are you kidding MG.

An English lass asking a question like that. Good grief!

I have five books on the go at the moment.

The Decline of the West. (That's permanently on the go.)

The Eastern Schism by Steven Runciman.

You've Had Your Time by Anthony Burgess.

Jesus by Micheal Grant.

And chasing between Ezekiel and St Mathhew.

You should try doing that for weeks on end and have a new reading experience. It helps to stop that very bad habit of reading over words you don't understand because you can't be bothered finding out what they mean. Only helps I mean. It's a hard habit to eradicate.

In fact if the habit was eradicated I doubt the possibility of ever getting to the end of Decline what with the footnotes thrown in on top.

The thing I love most about Spengler is that nobody ever insulted their reader's intelligence less than he did.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 12:25 pm
Mr. Spendius_ I must say that after reading your post, I have a great deal of admiration for your choices and your obvious brilliance. I have the Decline of the West on my bookshelf and have tried, for years, to get through it--unsuccessfully.

If you have some time, I would really appreciate it if you would answer some questions on a few points I have stumbled across which, because of Spengler's genius and deep learning, I am unable to decipher.

I have never been able to understand exactly what he is saying in his chapter on Destiny and Causality with regard to how a Culture can actually "forsee" the "way destiny has chosen for it">
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 02:09 pm
currently reading ...DENNIS ROSS - THE MISSING PEACE...
dennis ross was ME envoy to presidents bush - senior and clinton .
about as intimate and detailed an account as possible .

(i've managed to cover 60 of 800+ pages Shocked )
hbg
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 03:23 pm
Nice exchange about Brazilian literature.

I, of course, have read Jorge Amado. And many have seen films based on his writings ("Gabriela" and "Dona Flor e seus dois maridos" being the most known).
Vinicius de Moraes is an icon of popular Latin American culture.
I've also read Machado de Assis (I remember The Man Who Knew Javanese" as quite funny) and Clarice Lispector.
One of the best known Brazilian authors in Mexico is Rubem Fonseca (El Cobrador), perhaps he's so popular here because he deals with urban violence.

Had no idea about Verissimo. Will look for some stuff.
And Drummond de Andrade is a hole in my readings.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 03:30 pm
Bernard-

I'll try to come back to your interesting question but the pub beckons at this time and I'm sure you'll understand.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 03:40 pm
Thank you-=Spendius- I would love to discuss Spengler. As you may have noted, I have had some difficulty in going through what I find is a very difficult book to understand!!!
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 09:02 pm
BernardR wrote:
Certainly -Gargamel- Here are my criteria, with a preface:


Preface:

Since we are not immortal or not even particularly long lived, it is essential, in my estimation, that we read the best we can find.
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And what is the best? The best is the consensus of people who are experts in the field. They can tell us what the best is.

Can we ignore thier assessments? Certainly--We can, as most of the nation appears to do---immerse ourselves in the novels of Danielle Steele or even Stephen King. If the reading pleases us, what else is needed?

I would argue that the best and greatest literature would easily bring us more aesthetic pleasure than Steele or King.


I am a fan of the cinema. I am aware of the consensus which has been made by movie critics as to which movies are the GREAT ONES.

I have found that, for me, their choices have been almost always correct with regards to my viewing pleasure.

Why should I spend money going to see a piece of trash like "The DaVinci Chronicles" or "Brokeback Mountain" when I can watch( for the third or fourth time, a classic like Dr, Strangelove or Ther Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

Most of the movies made today will be forgotten in ten years. The same is true of the novels written. Only a few will attain classic status!

That is my criteria! I find it amazing( but I know that not all would agree) that someone would read a third rate novel when they have never read the Illiad or the Odyssey.


Dear BernardR,

I appreciate your attempt at answering the question. I can only be satisfied with that--not the result.

I fully concur that life is too short to read ****.

However, I'm interested in we who esteem OURSELVES experts on the matter. Yes, Bloom has read more than I have. But do Bloom and I judge books by the same criteria? No.

I was hoping to learn your personal aesthetic, hoping it differed from Blooms'. For, you see, if all of your opinions are equal to Blooms', you needn't contribute further to this thread. Simply tell us which Bloom books to read, and your work is complete.

In terms of what you deem great art, you have simply applied superlatives--great! amazing! Well, what EXACTLY do those words mean? I have heard so many people say that King and Steele are lesser authors. To the point that it has become the "thing people-who-want-to-sound-like-competent-book-critics say."

I don't read Danielle Steele because she is cliche prone and writes irrelevant, contemporary romance.

I am currently reading Ian McEwan's Atonement. Though I am only 100 or so pages into the book, I consider it a competent novel thus far because of his ability to juggle the consciousness of a thirteen year old girl with that of a hypochondriac mother, with that of a sexually repressed young woman. Though it's tedious at times, his digressions into the psychology of his characters are so original (poignangt, devoid of cliches) and nuanced, it is almost always worth the effort.

This is by no means a critical reading. But it gives people on this thread an idea of what insight, thought, deliberation, minimal brain function goes into my judgement.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 09:08 pm
just finished two graphic novels, castle waiting and bone

also a collection of gasoline alley strips from the 20's chronicling the adoption of skeezik by walt, very interesting stuff
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 12:08 am
Mr. Gargamel- I am glad you agree that life is too short to reac garbage.

There are a lot of books out there. How many can you read in a year?

I currently have re-read Hamlet again. I must have read it at least ten times and I gain more insight each time I read it. I know much of it by memory.

You write:

I am currently reading Ian McEwan's Atonement. Though I am only 100 or so pages into the book, I consider it a competent novel thus far because of his ability to juggle the consciousness of a thirteen year old girl with that of a hypochondriac mother, with that of a sexually repressed young woman. Though it's tedious at times, his digressions into the psychology of his characters are so original (poignangt, devoid of cliches) and nuanced, it is almost always worth the effort.


I dare say that Shakespeare's Hamlet provides as much, if not more "digressions" into the psychology of its characters as Ian McEwan.

Of course, that is only my opinion, but I wonder what Mr. McEwan himself would say. I am betting that he has read Shakespeare over and over and owes a great debt to the greatest of them all in partially forming his writing.


Psychology? Have you read---The Brothers Karamazov? or Crime and Punishment or Notes from the Underground?

I dare say that Mr. McEwan himself would take his hat off to those works--especially with regard to psychological insight.
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Clary
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 05:20 am
I'm reading The Art of Travel, by philosopher Alain de Botton. Amusingly written and intelligent, but not necessarily ground breaking.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 09:05 am
BernardR wrote:
Mr. Gargamel- I am glad you agree that life is too short to reac garbage.

There are a lot of books out there. How many can you read in a year?

I currently have re-read Hamlet again. I must have read it at least ten times and I gain more insight each time I read it. I know much of it by memory.

You write:

I am currently reading Ian McEwan's Atonement. Though I am only 100 or so pages into the book, I consider it a competent novel thus far because of his ability to juggle the consciousness of a thirteen year old girl with that of a hypochondriac mother, with that of a sexually repressed young woman. Though it's tedious at times, his digressions into the psychology of his characters are so original (poignangt, devoid of cliches) and nuanced, it is almost always worth the effort.


I dare say that Shakespeare's Hamlet provides as much, if not more "digressions" into the psychology of its characters as Ian McEwan.

Of course, that is only my opinion, but I wonder what Mr. McEwan himself would say. I am betting that he has read Shakespeare over and over and owes a great debt to the greatest of them all in partially forming his writing.


Psychology? Have you read---The Brothers Karamazov? or Crime and Punishment or Notes from the Underground?

I dare say that Mr. McEwan himself would take his hat off to those works--especially with regard to psychological insight.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bernard--you've read classic literature. So have I, and so have most people on this thread. Guess what? I don't feel like reading Hamlet again. Or Crime and Punishment. I have read them, and both are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from Atonement. Do you simply sit around and read the same books over and over again?

Again, Hamlet is a GODDAMN play. And just because Crime and Punishment is "psychological" as you say, EXISTENTIAL being the more appropraite term, doesn't mean it is anything like the plot of Atonement--have you read Atonement? Even Bloom, your boyfriend, would approve of this book. In short, it so happens I don't feel like reading Shakespeare, and I am, at the moment, uninterested in the Russian brand of existential wretchednesss.

You still haven't answered my above post. What are the specifics of your aestheetic?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 09:26 am
A friend gave me the Art of Travel, Clary; I haven't read it yet.


I haven't read Atonement, but I've read other McEwan books and have appreciated them for the same reasons Gargamel explained, re McEwan's insight, and juxtapositioning, juggling, of character.

One of my joys in reading is in running across a felicitous string of words, perhaps for their sounds in my mind, sans meaning, or - more likely - for the meaning, either a new metaphor for a scene, or a fresh insight. Sometimes the two aspects hover in the same string of words, so that I hear a sweet bath of sound and receive a new insight in a given instant.

I can find these jewels in many kinds of books. I'm rather sorry I haven't kept a sort of diary of these.

I'll be back with list of my current reads.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 09:28 am
I just started "Reservation Blues" by Sherman Alexie. I am still reading "Log of a Cowboy" by Andy Adams which is a diary of a 16 year old on his first cattle drive from Brownsville Texas to Montana in the 1850's.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2006 09:55 am
It looks like signatures aren't showing up today.
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