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Look to Norway, Bush re your ban on gay marriages

 
 
Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2003 09:29 am
Nettavisen [skriv ut] [lukk]
BANNING GAY MARRIAGES:
Look to Norway, Bush
Av: Berit Almendingen / Hanne Dankertsen 01. aug 10:00

Norwegian politicians are shocked that President Bush is opposing homosexual marriages and think the President should look to Norway, where several prominent politicians are openly gay and experiences with homosexual marriages are positive.

Kristin Halvorsen, leader of the socialist left-wing party SV, is shocked that President Bush is opposing homosexual marriages, as the attitude towards homosexuality is completely different in Norway.
Norway legalised homosexual marriages 13 years ago.


Gay Minister of Finance
Even the Norwegian Conservative Party, who is strongly represented in government, has a number of prominent members who are openly homosexual, amongst them Minister of Finance, Per-Kristian Foss.

At the same time, the present Prime Minister, Kjell Magne Bondevik, is a trained priest from the Christian Democratic Party.

Kristin Halvorsen now encourages the leader of the Norwegian Conservative party to have words with Mr. Bush:

«I urge the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jan Petersen, to bring the matter up with American authorities. He can tell them about Norway's positive experiences with letting homosexual couples get married the same way heterosexual couples can», she said.

Halvorsen sees Norway as a pioneer when it comes to homosexuals' rights:

«Denmark was the first country in the world to legalize homosexual marriages in 1989 and Norway followed two years later», she said.


Minister of Finance, Per-Kristian Foss (left) and Prime Mminister Kjell Magne Bondevik.

Photo: Hilde Charlotte Solheim/Nettavisen



Homosexual top leaders
Halvorsen is proud that Norway has a number of homosexual political top leaders:

«Our Minister of Finance is gay and a number of members of parliament are as well. I really thought we had come a long way when Per-Kristian Foss was made Minister of Finance after being open about his homosexuality in 2001», said Halvorsen.

Bush should learn from Norway

Asked if she thinks Petersen could have an influence on Bush on this matter, she said:

«Yes. The American President definitely has a lot to learn from Norway. In 1972 being gay was illegal in Norway. Today our Minister of Finance is married to his male partner.»

In the US each state decides whether homosexuals can marry.

In Europe, 10 countries have legalised homosexual marriages. The ten countries are France, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Finland, England, The Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden and Croatia. In certain areas of Spain and Switzerland homosexual marriages are legalised, according to AFP.
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the prince
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2003 09:59 am
Bah !! Old Europe - Buh doesnt care abt them !! Laughing
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2003 10:25 am
I can't believe the pope, the president, any of it. The Pope wants catholic politicians to throw their weight around. What about those people here who aren't catholic? What about a non-catholic gay american? What right have the catholic reps to mandate who he can marry, him not being catholic? I really just can't wrap my mind around that kind of thinking.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2003 10:57 am
Don't fret, LittleK -- we are watching what amounts to their last gasps of breath.
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2003 11:06 am
I'm hoping this idiocy among others will help keep Bush out of the presidency next election.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2003 10:31 pm
Justice Ginsburg: Supremes No Longer decisions lone-Rangers
Justice Ginsburg Says Supreme Court Is No Longer "lone-Ranger" in Decision-Making
By Gina Holland Associated Press Writer
Published: Aug 2, 2003

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court is looking beyond America's borders for guidance in handling cases on issues like the death penalty and gay rights, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said Saturday.
The justices referred to the findings of foreign courts this summer in their own ruling that states may not punish gay couples for having sex.

And in 2002, the court said that executing mentally retarded people is unconstitutionally cruel. That ruling noted that the practice was opposed internationally.

"Our island or lone ranger mentality is beginning to change," Ginsburg said during a speech to the American Constitution Society, a liberal lawyers group holding its first convention.

Justices "are becoming more open to comparative and international law perspectives," said Ginsburg, who has supported a more global view of judicial decision making.

Ginsburg cited an international treaty in her vote in June to uphold the use of race in college admissions.

The shift has angered some conservatives. Justice Antonin Scalia, in the gay sex case, wrote with two colleagues that the court should not "impose foreign moods, fads, or fashions on Americans."

David Rivkin Jr., a conservative Washington attorney, said foreign trends can be helpful to legislators in setting policy, but not to judges in interpreting the U.S. Constitution.

Last month, Ginsburg and Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Stephen Breyer discussed the death penalty and terrorism with French President Jacques Chirac during a European tour. France outlawed the death penalty in 1981. Ginsburg was one of five justices who attended a conference on the European constitution.

Ginsburg said Saturday that the Internet is making decisions of courts in other countries more readily available in America, and they should not be ignored.

"While you are the American Constitution Society, your perspective on constitutional law should encompass the world," she told the group of judges, lawyers and students. "We are the losers if we do not both share our experiences with and learn from others."
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2003 04:38 pm
wow.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2003 05:40 pm
The two of the religious leaders of the world are against gay marriages. How strange. roll: roll:
For one I think the pope should stick to "poping" and stay out of affairs of government. Most never listen to him anyway. Imo those that do should be run out of office. I should add he should worry about the deviates in his ministry.
As for Bush what can one say other than as a citizen of the US I am sorry
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the prince
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2003 05:05 am
When organizations/groups start becoming irrelavant in the grand scheme of things, they dream up controversial topics, just to prove their nuisance value and stay in the news.

I think the vatican is doing the same thing.

As far as Bush is concerned, the less said the better !!!
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