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Allusions to Shakespeare in Modern Movies, Books...

 
 
Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 06:34 pm
Daughter has this assignment. I've trawled through some S'speare sites and nada.

And, all I know to look for are about ten references to Hamlet (G'stein/R'berg, smelly in Denmark, alas poor Yorick... and a few from R and J.)

And I'm not finding them.

Seen one lately?

Many thanks.
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 06:40 pm
Not going to be any help on this one, Lash. You might invite Letty or Dlowan. I recall that Deb has a book of Shakespearian insults, which might help. On the other hand, when you get them figured out, you might be sorry you asked.

Hear about the lady that finally read Hamlet? She said "What's all the excitement about? It's just a collection of old quotes."
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 06:58 pm
Was it Stoppard who wrote "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead"- does that count?

Hmmmm - does "Brave New World" count?

What about "Ran" as Macbeth?

Do things like "Forbidden Planet" as a re-telling of "the Tempest" count?

Greenaway's "Prospero's Books" is a long meditation upon "The Tempest".

Thinking...
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:03 pm
OK, I don't even get Ran, or Brave New World (and I admitted it.)

Yes R'cranz and G'stern is good. Thank you. (I think my first massacre of these names could be a racial slur.)

I found a poem, "Out, out, " which we can use.

Much appreciation for your efforts!

Caitlin is 15, and trying to see if "Billy Madison" (Adam Sandler) made a reference to a Shakespeare term or phrase...
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Asherman
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:04 pm
"Kiss Me Kate "and "Westside Story" spring to mind.
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:06 pm
Thanks, Asherman. Great!
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bermbits
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:06 pm
A little help
I generally don't like to help with others' homework, but I couldn't resist.

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

Macbeth V, 5

(1) "Out, Out..." Robert Frost poem

(2) The Way to Dusty Death Alistair McLean novel

(3) The Sound and the Fury William Faulkner novel
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:11 pm
bermbits--

GREAT!!!

The Sound and The Fury.

Its supposed to be a passing reference in a popular movie or book, that is not explained, but the meaning transfered from Shakespeare to the audience.

But, I think the title can used, as well.

Appreciate your help!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:15 pm
"Ran" is a famous Japanese film - Akira Kurosawa's - with a story-line like a Japanese Macbeth.

(http://us.imdb.com/Title?0089881
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1985/12/34295.html
http://www.presser.com/ran.html
http://popmatters.com/film/reviews/r/ran.html)

"Brave New World" is Aldous Huxley's dystopic novel.

(http://www.huxley.net/)

The title comes from "The Tempest" - it is what Miranda says when she sees the shipwrecked outsiders -the first outsiders she has ever seen - "O, brave new world, that hath such beings in it" - or somesuch.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:18 pm
Passing references.... I know exactly what you mean - can't think for trying!

Poe doesn't count as modern, I guess? - there is a great Macbeth reference in "The Raven."
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:23 pm
How about this one certainly contemporary.

Shaekspeare's In Love
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:30 pm
dlowen---YES!

The reference in The Raven! Good one. Using it!

Thank you.

Now, daughter has to read it. Hahaha.
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:32 pm
Joanne--

Thank you. I bet I can find one in there!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:38 pm
She may not recognize it, Lash - you have to know the play well.. I will have a look for her.

Here is one in TS Eliot's "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock": 'Tis line 111 to 119.

"No! I am not prince hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do,
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use,
Politic, cautious and meticulous;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous -
Almost, at times, the Fool."
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:48 pm
And it ISN'T "The Raven"! Stop her looking - i will check other Poe for you!

Yikes!
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:49 pm
dlowen--

I owe you. Tis verra nice for a Rough Bunny.
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:51 pm
Poe would be great how about The Fall of the House of Usher and the history plays Richard II, Henry IV, VI, and Richard III.


Shakespeare

Poe, Fall of the House of Usher
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 07:54 pm
Joanne
You are hurting my head. Laughing
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 08:01 pm
Can't find it, Lash - and I have to go out - sorry!
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Lash Goth
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2003 08:09 pm
dlowen and all--

Immense gratitude. You have provided me with more than enough ideas to find what I need.

Thanks!
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