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Yikes, now it's baby bottles that are worrysome

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:27 pm
This is the latest opinion by the EU Food Safety Authority - they changed their opinion to that as of 2002 drasmatically (now allowing 5 times more bisphenol A as tolerable than in 2002).
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:27 pm
There was something 10-12 years ago about the leeching of some chemical (I thought related to plasticizers) used in toys and pacifiers. It didn't require heating, it was the contact with the babys mouth that was harmful.

I once made the comment to another mother that I thought glass was safer. It just seemed to me that plastic would be more pourous and therefore harder to clean inside. They insisted (and laughed that I thought such a thing) that glass is more pourous. I couldn't figure out how it was when tea could stain the plastic but not the glass, so I preferred glass.

Interesting that the plastic has been in use for 25 years and while we won't know for years the resulting cancers, we do know that in the past 25 years behavior / ADD/ ADHD has skyrocketed. Wonder if there is a connection or if they would ever tell us.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:29 pm
squinney wrote:
There was something 10-12 years ago about the leeching of some chemical (I thought related to plasticizers) used in toys and pacifiers. It didn't require heating, it was the contact with the babys mouth that was harmful.


That has been the very same stuff (at least the German/European sources are quoting such as well).
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:30 pm
Hm.

Well, I don't know what to think.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:34 pm
Yeah, that occurred to me too, squinney. To worry, or not to worry....

As it is, I use little plastic, for other reasons than bisphenol, and am trying to cut down what I do use. I use old glass jars to store things in the refrigerator, for example; that's sort of an aesthetic choice as well as an environmental one. (Well, to be truthful, I use more plastic here than in California, since I'm still not fully unpacked.)

This brings up the tangent that there is a really good article on plastic bags in today's LA Times...

This is that LA Times plastic bag article -
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-ex-plastic11apr11,0,6074156.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:52 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I have my doubts about how serious this is too, but then, do people microwave the bottles with milk or formula in them, or even do the milk in another container, get the timing off and then let the milk cool down to baby temp in the bottle?

I suppose there is scientific discussion of this online somewhere. I just saw the article and thought it was interesting.


If you read any bottle's or formula's instruction they tell you specifically not to microwave the bottle as this can cause "hot spots".

Not sure if you have used formula recently, but you do not have to heat up the formula and then let it cool. The only time you need to heat up is if it has been refridgerated like when you store breast milk, or if you use formula already mixed that has been opened. Then you are supposed to only heat to room temperature or a little warmer - the temp in which you feed your baby. You do not heat to a boiling point and then cool - I remember my mom doing that with bottles in water on the stove.

Many pre-made (not powder) formulas even come in single servings where you only open up and serve - some you can simply attach a nipple to the bottle (and the container is glass) and feed to baby. These you don't even have to heat up. There are also single serving powders - both of these are more expensive ways. I used to measure my single serving powders in some containers or plastic bags when I went out - I simply would get some warm water when I was out.

I also would bring bottled water with me in case there was no water except tap water. I would simply mix in the bottle and put the bottle under running hot water from a tap. I know all the tricks.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 02:54 pm
squinney wrote:
There was something 10-12 years ago about the leeching of some chemical (I thought related to plasticizers) used in toys and pacifiers. It didn't require heating, it was the contact with the babys mouth that was harmful.

I once made the comment to another mother that I thought glass was safer. It just seemed to me that plastic would be more pourous and therefore harder to clean inside. They insisted (and laughed that I thought such a thing) that glass is more pourous. I couldn't figure out how it was when tea could stain the plastic but not the glass, so I preferred glass.

Interesting that the plastic has been in use for 25 years and while we won't know for years the resulting cancers, we do know that in the past 25 years behavior / ADD/ ADHD has skyrocketed. Wonder if there is a connection or if they would ever tell us.


I couldn't stand cleaning either glass or plastic bottles so I used the disposable liners.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 03:02 pm
Put 'em in the dishwasher and turn off heated drying.
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Eva
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 09:54 pm
Ah! The voice of (recent) experience! Thanks, DrewDad!

When I breastfed, I would pump and store extra breast milk in the freezer. There are always those times when the baby thinks it's hungry, then changes its mind after feeding for about 30 seconds, leaving you uncomfortably full...so then I'd pump and freeze it. I used the disposable liners to store the milk, then I'd run them under hot tap water to thaw & warm whenever I needed them. Simple. No microwaves, no dishwashers.

Of course, now this makes me wonder about the safety of the plastic disposable liners. Oh well. I doubt they ever got hot enough under the tap water to worry about, though.

And don't worry about pumping, Bella. Get a small, portable electric pump (by Medela). It's small enough you can stick it in your purse along with a couple of ziploc bags and take it anywhere. It's very easy to use, and a lifesaver when you get caught away from home and feel like you're about to burst. (It happens.)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 10:05 pm
Linkat wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
I have my doubts about how serious this is too, but then, do people microwave the bottles with milk or formula in them, or even do the milk in another container, get the timing off and then let the milk cool down to baby temp in the bottle?

I suppose there is scientific discussion of this online somewhere. I just saw the article and thought it was interesting.


If you read any bottle's or formula's instruction they tell you specifically not to microwave the bottle as this can cause "hot spots".

Not sure if you have used formula recently, but you do not have to heat up the formula and then let it cool. The only time you need to heat up is if it has been refridgerated like when you store breast milk, or if you use formula already mixed that has been opened. Then you are supposed to only heat to room temperature or a little warmer - the temp in which you feed your baby. You do not heat to a boiling point and then cool - I remember my mom doing that with bottles in water on the stove.

Many pre-made (not powder) formulas even come in single servings where you only open up and serve - some you can simply attach a nipple to the bottle (and the container is glass) and feed to baby. These you don't even have to heat up. There are also single serving powders - both of these are more expensive ways. I used to measure my single serving powders in some containers or plastic bags when I went out - I simply would get some warm water when I was out.

I also would bring bottled water with me in case there was no water except tap water. I would simply mix in the bottle and put the bottle under running hot water from a tap. I know all the tricks.





I don't know about formula, I am an oldie, just talking. But, y'know, people can overheat things. And you, Link, are attuned.... but many aren't I don't have an endpoint in my enquiry - am not out there convinced one way or another.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 10:10 pm
Tap water and liners, re heat? My guess is it's fooforwah, but I also don't know.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 11 Apr, 2007 07:33 am
With the bottles I am getting, I can't use liners.

http://trus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-3038530reg.jpg


Quote:
Dr. Brown's bottles feature a patented internal vent which reduces air bubbles and helps to prevent fluid in your baby's ears.


I've read lots of reviews on these bottles and people seem to be really happy with them. Less gas gets in I guess.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 11 Apr, 2007 01:15 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
With the bottles I am getting, I can't use liners.

http://trus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-3038530reg.jpg


Quote:
Dr. Brown's bottles feature a patented internal vent which reduces air bubbles and helps to prevent fluid in your baby's ears.


I've read lots of reviews on these bottles and people seem to be really happy with them. Less gas gets in I guess.


I don't remember seeing these when my girls were babies, but there are always new and improved out there. You could still do Eva's suggestion and pour the milk into the bottles.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 11 Apr, 2007 01:50 pm
That's what I'll be doing.
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