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Draft General Westly Clark for 2004?

 
 
Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 03:49 pm
Anyone been following this grassroot effort? Just heard about it today.

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Draft Clark is a grassroots effort founded by a couple of webloggers -- Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of Daily Kos and Jerome Armstrong of MyDD. In less than a year, both Moulitsas and Armstrong have built lively communities of motivated Democratic partisans and draw nearly a million unique visitors per month combined.

Draft Clark is now part of the Draft Clark coalition, along with DraftWesleyClark.com. Public relations for the site is now managed by John Hlinko.


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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 11:01 am
I know of Wesley Clark and truly admire his candor. I'm not sure though a grassroot drafting of a Presidential candidate will work. The name must be entered into the primaries of enough states to win - and to my knowledge, in the recent past (40-50 years) this has not happened. A grassroots effort in 2004 for a solid run in 2012 is a great possibility though!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 11:18 am
What are Clark's main attractions, do you think?
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 12:11 pm
Security
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 12:47 pm
I heard he's sniffing the air and may run as a back-up Republican...
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 12:49 pm
Hasn't registered as a Dem, but has far more backing as a Dem. Would never carry the Rep conservative (sic) wing.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 02:21 pm
listening to NPR this morning, the current thinking is that he is waiting to see how badly George does running into the election and may run against him as an independent.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 03:24 pm
Don't need another split ticket - I want one man; split their ticket!!!!!!!!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2003 07:57 am
Ah Bill -- you and I agree about most things, but I'm very much in favor of "diversifying" the party system. Big shake-up needed.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2003 08:00 am
Yeah, but is the "shake-up" worth it, if the cost is 4 more years of this?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2003 08:11 am
Snood notes here a salient point of the 2000 election--splitting the election can cost liberals a decent shot at getting rid of the Shrub.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2003 09:17 am
Shake-up has to come sometime, Snood. I think it depends. I wonder, as Bush's credibility wanes, we'll have four more years of this? Much greater brains that mine have argued that it wouldn't be bad to have the Republicans damage themselves so thoroughly that they'd go underground for a while. Part of my thinking is that we have a real problem with the Democrats being too wedded to corporate interests, etc., and that it's those interests which, at bottom, are causing the trouble. Emotionally I agree with you. But rationally? Don't know. Undecided!
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2003 10:19 am
Tartarin, don't get me wrong - my belief is that the whole system should be shookup. I fully believe that a true and fair Democracy is one that is based on a coalition system - many parties that must vie for control (create a "government) and the ease of moving in and out of Political power. This is the only way people (Democracy is of the people, not of the business) can be in control of government. We, in actuality have a Biocracy, and it is controlled by special interests with money.

But, if one party splits - the other party is a shoe-in because our current system prevents a third party forming gaining power! At least 7 out of the last eight elections were decided by a third party entering the fray and splitting the vote - letting the other party win. If it must be split, let it be them!
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 12:12 pm
Here is an interesting article that includes topics regarding Clark and the use of the internet for political campaigns.

http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp
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July 16, 2003|11:00 AM

You Know Things Are Going Crazy When Barry Diller Starts Pressing Tom Brokaw to Run for President-- Gen. Clark Tells Observer

America Hungry for Leadership


Finding Demo
by Josh Benson, Greg Sargent and Joe Hagan


No, Tom Brokaw is not running for President in 2004.

Last month, despite the urging of his powerful friends, the 61-year-old NBC anchorman categorically ruled out any sort of candidacy. And that should have been that.

But his friends won't let the idea drop. Claiming to see no one with the stature to challenge President Bush among the declared Presidential candidates, they persist.

"He simply is the greatest draft choice you could ever possibly imagine," said media executive Barry Diller. "He's such a natural on so many levels that I can't imagine how you could create it otherwise. Of course it's absurd, but there it is."

Alas, through a spokesperson, Mr. Brokaw reaffirmed his utter lack of interest: "I'm not running for anything, anywhere."

So … what about former General Wesley Clark? Is he running for President in 2004? He has himself been the target of a somewhat more serious draft movement, and he too is a well-recognized public figure. But unlike Mr. Brokaw, the general is not taking his suitors lightly. "You know, in any election there's always a casting about for alternatives," said Mr. Clark. "But this is something that's beyond that. This is a genuine effort by people to create an alternative, not because it's good for the Democratic Party, but good for the country."The one draft movement with a realistic chance of success, it seems, is the one to draft Mr. Clark, who has encouraged speculation by making extensive rounds of the major media outlets and Democratic audiences.

And one other prospective addition to the field doesn't have a draft movement at all, but is being closely watched by Democrats nonetheless: Senator Joseph Biden, who ran in 1988, is said by associates to be considering a late entry into the current contest.

Mr. Clark, who has said that he will reach a decision about whether or not to run within the next few weeks, told The Observer that he thought his draft movement was thriving, in part because of the building pressure on the White House over the economy and Iraq. "I think that the heat that the Bush administration has been taking is, in general, a reflection of the country's unease at the direction in which it's being taken," he said. "It's hand-in-glove with the people who are supporting me, in that they really want an alternative to the current administration.

"I think there's a real hunger for leadership in this country, and I think that's what's manifesting itself right now," Mr. Clark continued. "I think people are looking for someone who can provide that leadership."

Mr. Clark also said that DraftWesleyClark.com was central to the possibility of making the race. "It has a very significant influence," he said. "When you are looking at moving into a field where you've never been before, when you see things like this forming, it makes you seriously consider your options."
Web PowerMr. Clark himself said he was amazed by the impact that the Internet has had. "They have really used the power of the Internet in a way that I don't think it's been used before," he said. "I've never seen or heard of anything like it."

Mr. Clark's support group isn't the only one to have found a home online. The Internet has also helped to produce groups like the Gore Majority Movement,the organization run by Mr. Vidali, who refers to the President as "Busholini" and rejects the "little dwarves" who comprise the current field of candidates.

And it helped facilitate the Cusack for President movement, which, when Mr. Cusack pulled the plug in June, was transformed into the BushWhack P.A.C., a catch-all political-action committee dedicated to finding "new ways" to bring about the end of the Bush Presidency.

Until such time as the nomination picture becomes a little clearer, it seems, a good many liberals, centrists and all-around malcontents will continue their search for a silver bullet. Team Brokaw for example, seems to be holding firm to the idea that their man might still, like Dwight Eisenhower, answer America's call and run. Ms. Ephron predicted that if Mr. Brokaw ran, "$20 million would come pouring in in about a week." Mr. Stringer, a loyal Democrat who has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Senate candidates in the past, told The Observer that he is still actively trying to convince Mr. Brokaw to run.

Kurt Andersen, an author and would-be supporter of Mr. Brokaw, had this to say: "I feel as though he'd have an excellent chance of being elected, if people were given the chance to vote for him. My hunch is he'd make a pretty good candidate, and I can't say that about anyone running for President."

You may reach Josh Benson, Greg Sargent and Joe Hagan via email at: [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected].
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