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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:24 am
A2K has recently gone through a metamorphosis. As you all may know, for quite a while, the site was really struggling, often being either slow as molasses, or completely out of service. It took a while for the "fix", an infusion of more RAM, to get the site zipping along merrily.

Right after A2K regained its "health", the posts were coming in, fast and furiously. In fact, there was a certain giddiness amongst the members, and for awhile, I found that every time I entered the site, I was barraged with more posts than I was able to absorb in one sitting.

Now things have really begun to settle down. Apparently, my perception is that the "old faithfuls" in the site, hung in during the slow times. Marginal members, who only had a tenuous connection to the site, probably gave up, when it was extremely difficult, of not impossible, to access A2K. As a result, I find that when I open A2K in the morning, there have not been that many postings in my absence.

I know that this is not my imagination:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.able2Know.com

How to we get the word out, that A2K has completed her "recovery", and try to get back some of the old members, who give up on the site, and to attract new members?
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:36 am
Well, I'm just trying to make the stats go up...
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:45 am
Porn usually seems to work.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:46 am
Im trying to help also
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:46 am
Did someone mention porn?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:47 am
wow, its so fast that you cant even double post anymore.
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:49 am
Phoenix, there seems to be a lot of rancor on A2K. I don't understand it either.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:56 am
Letty- There has always been rancor on the political and religion posts. Apparently, a lot of the stalwart members were those who frequented those forums. Now that the site has quieted down, the posts that you see tend to be the more passionate ones.

Now if someone would start some threads on potting petunias, or wallpapering bathrooms, the percentage of rancor would definitely diminish! Very Happy
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:08 am
The only thing that I have that is potted is a peace lily that is rusting, Phoenix. That, and the fact that I will have to pay the IRS is enough to make me scream and ask why Cheney didn't go to Walter Reed hospital. Oops. Razz
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:25 am
Re: Where IS Everybody?
Phoenix32890 wrote:
I find that when I open A2K in the morning, there have not been that many postings in my absence.

I know that this is not my imagination:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.able2Know.com

Hmm, I dont really see that graph showing that there "have not been that many postings". In the period September through December last year the daily reach seems to have averaged around 0.005. From January through March it seems to have averaged around 0.004. Doesnt seem very drastic.

<changes timeframe in graph>

OK, a more serious drop appears to have taken place earlier - md-last year. Back in the first three months of 2006, the reach had still averaged around 0.007.

Also - Craven explained all this earlier, but Im afraid Ive forgotten it again - but doesnt the "daily reach" track relative performance? As in, how big a percentage of overall traffic your site takes? So if overall Internet traffic keeps growing but your site keeps attracting the same number of visits, then you will go down in the graph, even if no fewer people actually come?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:25 am
Speaking for myself, I've been switching over my computer time to work, which went really well when A2K was wonky. (Check A2K, get Critical Error, curse and go back to the work site.) Then when it got over the RAM hump it was so fun to have it moving so fast again that I posted a ton for a while. Now I'm shifting back to working more during what time I have at the computer.

The SEO stuff that Craven did for A2K is deep and effective, it'll do the work.

Can't say than I see more rancor than ever.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:27 am
I thought you were Bear for a minute, soz, and was going to throw something at you.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:29 am
I stand corrected.

<tosses cowpie at Gus>
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:30 am
that's the problem .... when I changed avatars.... the majority of A2K ers who merely tolerated me finally had enough.

I seem to have suceeded in running everyone off. I'm going to eat some worms.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:42 am
Re: Where IS Everybody?
Ha! I did a search for what Craven wrote about the Alexa numbers earlier - more about that in a minute - and found something interesting.

This is what you wrote now, Phoenix:

Phoenix32890 wrote:
[T]hings have really begun to settle down. [M]y perception is that the "old faithfuls" in the site, hung in during the slow times. Marginal members, who only had a tenuous connection to the site, probably gave up [..]. As a result, I find that when I open A2K in the morning, there have not been that many postings in my absence.

I know that this is not my imagination:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.able2Know.com

How to [..] try to get back some of the old members, who give up on the site, and to attract new members?


And this is what you wrote back in June 2006:

Phoenix32890 wrote:
I have been posting on A2K since the beginning of the site. I have loved the intellectual level of many of its members, and always found many fascinating threads to which I became involved. [..]

Recently though, I have found that except for a few of the diehard regulars, that A2K does not seem to be bringing in new members of the intellectual quality of past times. In addition, I am perceiving an attrition of many of the regulars, who have either left, of are posting on a less regular basis.

I know that it is not my imagination, as the traffic has decreased over the last few months:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.able2know.com/

[..] What do you think can be done to bring in some new "blood" of the high calibre of which we have become accustomed?


Deja vu... Plus ca change, plus ca reste le meme chose ;-)
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 08:46 am
As for the Alexa numbers and what they say - and dont say - about a website's traffic, this is what Craven wrote last June:

Craven de Kere wrote:
A2K traffic actually did drop then level last year, but that alexa graph isn't going to accurately show it (Alexa is only reliably accurate for about the top 100 sites on the internet, I could raise our ranking by a few thousand points over the weekend if I'd like and I've shown some private groups this in the past when I boosted it up to 5000s coming from off the charts in the span of 3 days).

See, when we were at our highest traffic ranking on Alexa we were actually at our lowest levels of traffic.

Alexa combines unique visitors with page views to acheive a traffic ranking. In the beginning we had a much higher pageviews/visit ratio because we had mostly regulars and fewer guests.

As A2K grew more popular we got more and more visitors who just land, see the info they were looking for and move on. This lowers our Alexa rank drastically even though traffic exploded and our reach multiplied.

Craven de Kere wrote:
Alexa's calculations are all ratios. For example, the reach ratio is a number per million internet users.

So yahoo, for example with about 28% reach of internet users would have an alexa reach rank of about 280,000.

[..] Think of it as a market share measurement and for sites to go up in the ranking they not only have to be growing in traffic but growing in the total share of internet traffic.

So a site's traffic can actually grow while the alexa rank diminishes even if the alexa statistics are accurate.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 10:30 am
I am looking at Phoenix' statistic link and see over 10,000 Indians
hitting a2k daily Shocked Who knew?

http://www.borge.diesal.de/a2k/stats.jpg
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 11:03 am
CalamityJane wrote:
I am looking at Phoenix' statistic link and see over 10,000 Indians
hitting a2k daily Shocked Who knew?

http://www.borge.diesal.de/a2k/stats.jpg

No, I think that means that able2know.com ranks 10,650th in the chart of most-visited/viewed/whatever website in India.

As in, number 1 is yahoo.com, number 2 is orkut.com (what?), number 3 is Google India at google.co.in, number 5 is rediff.com (what?), and number 10650 is able2know.com.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 11:05 am
We're only 189,504th in Germany though. What has Walter been doing? Someone tell him he'd better post more Razz
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Heatwave
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 01:12 pm
There's nimh! Hi, nimh.
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