Scary Black Guns

It seems regular old rifles are more than sufficient to kill animals - why do you need something more deadly?

To me the only purpose of such guns is to kill people and as many and as quickly as possible.

Because I don't care what honest, decent law abiding citizens hunt with, whether a steak knife or an AK.

The most popular big game cartridge is the .243-Win, followed by the 30-06 Springfield. The latter was developed for troop use in WW2.

An awful lot of Elmer Fudds, presented with such a display, will gather up their stuff and leave, figuring they must be in the presence of something illegal. Folks, even machine guns are legal if you have the proper licenses. I don't know the woman that those belong to, but I sure would like to go shooting with her.

Why don't they allow deer hunting with bazookas or grenade-launchers? It's infuriating to see the 2nd amendment being so bastardized so as to limit us like this.

If you blow the creature to smithereens then what is the purpose of hunting - can't eat it or display it.

Semi automatic, automatic, assault, whatever weapons are for one purpose and one only (as linket pointed out already): to kill people and lots of 'em.

There is no need ever to use a semi for hunting.

Bella - I'm shocked - and apparently a felon in your book.

Semiauto shotguns have been defacto standards for 100 years.

If in fact you are a gun owner and/or hunter, you're exactly the type I'm trying to ferret out and educate. Beliefs like that spell certain death for gun ownership in the USA. The antis have attacked in the form of the HSUS and the Bradys. Some of us are fighting back. You?

Ferdinand Ritter von Mannlicher designed the first semi-automatic rifle in 1885 (in Germany), and the first semi-automatic shotgun wasn't fabricated before 1902 (in Begium, Fabrique Nationale de Herstal [FN]).

If that's a de facto standard ...

Yes it is. The Browning A5 was the first mass produced version, of which I own two fine examples. Both are Belgian made, and the older one is close to 70 years old. To the untrained eye, they are identical.

No one wants to get rid of guns. Useless ones that are used to kill people? Yeah, lets get rid of those. Pretty hard to spray a round into a group of innocent people when you're using a shotgun.

And what do you use them for?

Hunting? If so, why?
Why not use just a shotgun?

I grew up in an area full of hunters and not ONE of them used a semi. Not one. In fact, no real hunter I know even now uses one.

Because they are shotguns?

Why do you care about one gun vs. another? It makes no sense - like a recurve bow hunter complaining about compounds.

Because one is capable of rapid fire. The other is not.

What is the purpose of rapid fire?

Well to blow that damn deer to smithereens of course.

Shooting MANY deer

I can rapid fire a pump shotgun and my lever gun deer rifle. So?

assault rifles with an auto option dont train hunters to become better shots. "Spray and pray" will become a norm when "harvesting'

What were the guns on the table in the picture (from left to right?) please tell me whether any have a full auto option? The most dangerous weapon I own is a riot gun 12 gage. However, its not a 5 shot auto shotgun, its a pump.
I only use it when we have stock being attacked by wild dogs.

The fact that you dont care whether hunters use auto rifles is one of the reasons why you dont make a good spokesman for gun owners. You come across a little whacky about your gun fetish. Most gun owners I know, dont get a chubby when someone wants them to buy an AK for "hunting".
Most of the "sportsmen" using the AK are about 15 or less , all cokes up, and in a militia , callous to human life.

In all your threads that you and David start, nowhere do I hear a damn thing about respect for life (even when youre hunting it)

WHYZAT?

I agree using full auto for hunting is extreme. Do you know anyone who does it? First off, you have to get a L3 FFL to even posess a full auto. But why not a semi-auto AK for deer? Compared to a 30-06? Do tell.

Many folks choose AK's when hunting dangerous game because of their reliability in harsh conditions, and packability.

Do I need to define semi-auto for a few folks? (not f-man of course)

What kind of "conditions" do you hunt in? If in Michigan, like I said all the hunters I know did just fine with shotguns.