Good Bye, John Bolton!!!

I'm sure we can all think of 259 thousand people who would attest or swear that we are bullies.

A hardy percentage of the Croats are pissed at me.

Something I said.

LSM,

While you are entitled to your opinion about Biden and Dodd, they didn't do anything wrong at all; the documents they wanted to see were within their right to ask for and should have been delivered.

It really strikes me how much of a hypocrite you are. Seriously. I mean, the Republicans have used every trick in the book to get what they want out of Congress for the last 6 years; they lock Dems out of policy meetings completely. They never allow a Dem amendment to make it to the floor, ever. They restructure the Ethics committee to keep their members from being investigated. They completely re-write bills during Conferencing. They reduce the time actually spent in the House and Senate so there is no real discussion or debate between people anymore. They submit 1000-page bills and then demand a vote on them that same day before anyone has a chance to read them.

In short, the Republicans have done each and every single thing they possibly could have done to keep the Democrats from having any say whatsoever in the policy and bill-writing proccess. For you to say that Dodd and Biden were in the wrong is downright ludicrous. The people you support rely upon dirty tricks to get what they want.

Cycloptichorn

ps. just because you declare something hogwash... doesn't really make it so, now does it?

Dodd & biden used the request for documents to delay the hearings, even the revered CNN report says that.

1. I am SURE if we did a background check on every elected and appointed official "SOME" questions will arise. This is an excuse being used to block the appointment, not a reason.


2. It seems the liberals want a Ambassador who place the needs of those who resent and are enemies to America before those of America nad our allies. I have sen no evidence that he is "bullying" anyone. He seems to be approaching his job in an objective manner while keeping the interest of America and our allies at the forefront.

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Dodd & biden used the request for documents to delay the hearings, even the revered CNN report says that.

The documents didn't delay the hearings one bit. If the Prez wanted the hearings to go forth, all he had to do was release the documents.

But, he wouldn't do so, because there are likely illegal things involved.

So instead of Dodd and Biden perhaps you should be examining the actions of the Executive branch in holding up Bolton's nomination.

Woiyo:

Quote:

1. I am SURE if we did a background check on every elected and appointed official "SOME" questions will arise. This is an excuse being used to block the appointment, not a reason.


2. It seems the liberals want a Ambassador who place the needs of those who resent and are enemies to America before those of America nad our allies. I have sen no evidence that he is "bullying" anyone. He seems to be approaching his job in an objective manner while keeping the interest of America and our allies at the forefront.

1, It only blocks the appointment if the Administration refuses to provide the information requested. If they wanted Bolton in, they would have done so.

2, you don't understand how a good ambassador works. He doesn't tell other countries how it is going to be. He doesn't even have to be aggressive about promoting America's interests.

What he really has to do is to make other countries want to work together with us, to provide leadership. I haven't seen much evidence of this.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

Dodd & biden used the request for documents to delay the hearings, even the revered CNN report says that.

The documents didn't delay the hearings one bit. If the Prez wanted the hearings to go forth, all he had to do was release the documents.

But, he wouldn't do so, because there are likely illegal things involved.

So instead of Dodd and Biden perhaps you should be examining the actions of the Executive branch in holding up Bolton's nomination.

Woiyo:

Quote:

1. I am SURE if we did a background check on every elected and appointed official "SOME" questions will arise. This is an excuse being used to block the appointment, not a reason.


2. It seems the liberals want a Ambassador who place the needs of those who resent and are enemies to America before those of America nad our allies. I have sen no evidence that he is "bullying" anyone. He seems to be approaching his job in an objective manner while keeping the interest of America and our allies at the forefront.

1, It only blocks the appointment if the Administration refuses to provide the information requested. If they wanted Bolton in, they would have done so.

2, you don't understand how a good ambassador works. He doesn't tell other countries how it is going to be. He doesn't even have to be aggressive about promoting America's interests.

What he really has to do is to make other countries want to work together with us, to provide leadership. I haven't seen much evidence of this.

Cycloptichorn

You have got to be kidding! Of course the request for the documents held up the hearings. Bush would not turn them over because they contained sensitive national security info that would've been on the front page of the NYT by the evening edition & dodd & biden knew that. I believe that dodd & biden were/are obstructionists, not stupid.

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

Dodd & biden used the request for documents to delay the hearings, even the revered CNN report says that.

The documents didn't delay the hearings one bit. If the Prez wanted the hearings to go forth, all he had to do was release the documents.

But, he wouldn't do so, because there are likely illegal things involved.

So instead of Dodd and Biden perhaps you should be examining the actions of the Executive branch in holding up Bolton's nomination.

Woiyo:

Quote:

1. I am SURE if we did a background check on every elected and appointed official "SOME" questions will arise. This is an excuse being used to block the appointment, not a reason.


2. It seems the liberals want a Ambassador who place the needs of those who resent and are enemies to America before those of America nad our allies. I have sen no evidence that he is "bullying" anyone. He seems to be approaching his job in an objective manner while keeping the interest of America and our allies at the forefront.

1, It only blocks the appointment if the Administration refuses to provide the information requested. If they wanted Bolton in, they would have done so.

2, you don't understand how a good ambassador works. He doesn't tell other countries how it is going to be. He doesn't even have to be aggressive about promoting America's interests.

What he really has to do is to make other countries want to work together with us, to provide leadership. I haven't seen much evidence of this.

Cycloptichorn

You have got to be kidding! Of course the request for the documents held up the hearings. Bush would not turn them over because they contained sensitive national security info that would've been on the front page of the NYT by the evening edition & dodd & biden knew that. I believe that dodd & biden were/are obstructionists, not stupid.

Bull crap. You have no clue what those documents contained, so don't make statements like you do.

And, since when do documents have to be given to congress to be leaked to the media? The Executive branch is full of leaks all by itself.

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

Dodd & biden used the request for documents to delay the hearings, even the revered CNN report says that.

The documents didn't delay the hearings one bit. If the Prez wanted the hearings to go forth, all he had to do was release the documents.

But, he wouldn't do so, because there are likely illegal things involved.

So instead of Dodd and Biden perhaps you should be examining the actions of the Executive branch in holding up Bolton's nomination.

Woiyo:

Quote:

1. I am SURE if we did a background check on every elected and appointed official "SOME" questions will arise. This is an excuse being used to block the appointment, not a reason.


2. It seems the liberals want a Ambassador who place the needs of those who resent and are enemies to America before those of America nad our allies. I have sen no evidence that he is "bullying" anyone. He seems to be approaching his job in an objective manner while keeping the interest of America and our allies at the forefront.

1, It only blocks the appointment if the Administration refuses to provide the information requested. If they wanted Bolton in, they would have done so.

2, you don't understand how a good ambassador works. He doesn't tell other countries how it is going to be. He doesn't even have to be aggressive about promoting America's interests.

What he really has to do is to make other countries want to work together with us, to provide leadership. I haven't seen much evidence of this.

Cycloptichorn

You have got to be kidding! Of course the request for the documents held up the hearings. Bush would not turn them over because they contained sensitive national security info that would've been on the front page of the NYT by the evening edition & dodd & biden knew that. I believe that dodd & biden were/are obstructionists, not stupid.

Bull crap. You have no clue what those documents contained, so don't make statements like you do.

And, since when do documents have to be given to congress to be leaked to the media? The Executive branch is full of leaks all by itself.

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Cycloptichorn

Since when do documents....
Ok that's it, you aren't being serious. When you can come up with a viable argument, I'll read & comment, until then, hasta la taco.

I don't put my intellect above anyone else's. But I have done extensive and exhaustive research on a large number of subjects that many others such as yourself apparently haven't.

I call you a troll because you act like one, no other reason.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I don't put my intellect above anyone else's. But I have done extensive and exhaustive research on a large number of subjects that many others such as yourself apparently haven't.

I call you a troll because you act like one, no other reason.

Cycloptichorn

It's very apparent that you aren't intellectually above anybody. You haven't done squat with reasearch with any reputable source. Maybe moveon or democrat underground.
I had thought that you might be one that coulddebate without the vitriol, I was wrong. In fact, you're the norm here, it seems. there are a few that can actually debate without making it personal, you aren't one of them. From now on I will read your posts with that in mind & not take anything you say seriously.

It isn't a Conservative-Liberal thing either, because believe me, it hurts Timber to have to agree with Setanta and I on anything. Hurts near the liver.

If you find vitriol to be the norm here, one can only speculate on the reasons you continue to produce such a large volume of posts here everyday. My guess is you enjoy attention, even if mostly negative, or that you enjoy feeling as if you're yanking people's chains. In any case, congratulations for generating and receiving more flame posts in a shorter time than I've seen in my years here. You must be one world class assh*le.

snood wrote:

If you find vitriol to be the norm here, one can only speculate on the reasons you continue to produce such a large volume of posts here everyday. My guess is you enjoy attention, even if mostly negative, or that you enjoy feeling as if you're yanking people's chains. In any case, congratulations for generating and receiving more flame posts in a shorter time than I've seen in my years here. You must be one world class assh*le.

I see you don't miss much here, how is that? while on duty?
You don't know a damn thing about me, you're nearly as clueless as a few others here, a herd mentality.
BTW-post ths on that other thraed since you're so proud of your handi work