You're going to regret that...

I interviewed a potential worker for next spring and I confess that I'm not going to hire her because of how she looks. The problem is she has a series of spiral tattoos on her face that makes her look like Groucho Marx. She apparently belongs to some feminist cult that gets these tattoos, or so she explained to me. I'm fine with the cult, it's just that tattoo. I can't see sending her to my clients homes with that wacky face, it's both comical and frightening. I've hired people with all sorts of hairdos, piercings, body mutilations, wardrobe malfunctions, etc, but this form of expression really had me waving bye bye. I was thinking how much she will probably regret getting that thing in a few years - and the expense to laser it off will be in the thousands. She would have to work the freak circuit a long time to afford the removal. In my youth I shaved my hair into a long mohawk, but it grew back (although I looked like Don King for a while) and I was able to celebrate my thirtieth birthday with dignity.

So what did you do in your younger days that you look back on and say - "WHAT WAS I THINKING!?"

Green Witch wrote:

I interviewed a potential worker for next spring and I confess that I'm not going to hire her because of how she looks. The problem is she has a series of spiral tattoos on her face that makes her look like Groucho Marx. She apparently belongs to some feminist cult that gets these tattoos, or so she explained to me. I'm fine with the cult, it's just that tattoo. I can't see sending her to my clients homes with that wacky face, it's both comical and frightening. I've hired people with all sorts of hairdos, piercings, body mutilations, wardrobe malfunctions, etc, but this form of expression really had me waving bye bye. I was thinking how much she will probably regret getting that thing in a few years - and the expense to laser it off will be in the thousands. She would have to work the freak circuit a long time to afford the removal. In my youth I shaved my hair into a long mohawk, but it grew back (although I looked like Don King for a while) and I was able to celebrate my thirtieth birthday with dignity.

So what did you do in your younger days that you look back on and say - "WHAT WAS I THINKING!?"

1. Groucho Marx did not have facial tatoos;
neither did Feneman, nor the Duck.

2. Piercing the body is self-destructive,
which is indicative of harboring anger;
unsafe to be around or to hire; forget it.
David

I think you're way off with your comments on tattoos and piercings. What a moron you are for thinking that....just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's destructive or stupid.

It's all about perception. In other countries, facial tattoos are a sign of maturity and beauty. Here, they are often misinterpreted as "weird" or "deliquent".

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It's all about perception. In other countries, facial tattoos are a sign of maturity and beauty. Here, they are often misinterpreted as "weird" or "deliquent".

Bella Dea- I think that you have summed up the issue quite nicely. What might be quite acceptable in some tribal societies, is considered weird, and strange or frightening in our society.

When you first meet a person, perception is everything. It is only when you attempt to befriend that person, that you learn to look beyond the superficials.

I remember once reading that an employer usually has a good sense that he does not want to hire a person in the first thirty seconds after they meet. If a person has a large snake coiling around his neck, and onto his cheek, that is what the employer will see, and react to. I don't care if the candidate graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard, he will be starting out on the wrong foot, and may be rejected immediately in the mind of the potential employer.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Green Witch wrote:

I interviewed a potential worker for next spring and I confess that I'm not going to hire her because of how she looks. The problem is she has a series of spiral tattoos on her face that makes her look like Groucho Marx. She apparently belongs to some feminist cult that gets these tattoos, or so she explained to me. I'm fine with the cult, it's just that tattoo. I can't see sending her to my clients homes with that wacky face, it's both comical and frightening. I've hired people with all sorts of hairdos, piercings, body mutilations, wardrobe malfunctions, etc, but this form of expression really had me waving bye bye. I was thinking how much she will probably regret getting that thing in a few years - and the expense to laser it off will be in the thousands. She would have to work the freak circuit a long time to afford the removal. In my youth I shaved my hair into a long mohawk, but it grew back (although I looked like Don King for a while) and I was able to celebrate my thirtieth birthday with dignity.

So what did you do in your younger days that you look back on and say - "WHAT WAS I THINKING!?"

1. Groucho Marx did not have facial tatoos;
neither did Feneman, nor the Duck.

2. Piercing the body is self-destructive,
which is indicative of harboring anger;
unsafe to be around or to hire; forget it.
David

Tatoos are not about anger. They are about self expression.

Just like pierced ears.
Or wearing jewlery.
Or dying your hair.
Or painting your nails.
Or doing anything else that makes you feel good about yourself.
Or they are a rite of passage.
Or they are symbols of something important in your life.

They've been doing it for thousands of years in other parts of the world.
I'll bet all those people are unsafe to be around too.

I have two tattoos and a piercing (well, did cuz I just took it out)
and I am an extremely reliable and hard working person.

I think you're way off with your comments on tattoos and piercings.
What a moron you are for thinking that....

just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's destructive or stupid.

I did not comment about tatoos; ( read it again )
however, since u press the point:
OK, I will include tatoos among
self-destructive bodily acts,
indicative of harboring unseen anger,
which might be manifested at
so much of the world as is within reach, in the future.

When I was hiring, I 'd have taken that as a negative.

He might as well tatoo a big sign on his face saying:
" DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ME
or I 'll strike out against u,
when I get the chance. "

I am reminded of a very angry young man in the 1960s,
of my slight acquaintance at the NY Stock Exchange,
who arranged his hair vertically,
creating a vu that was successfully calculated to shock.
He was a very vocal anti-capitalist that did whatever
anti-capitalist acts he cud get away with on the job until he got fired.[/b]

U mean like the Headhunters of New Guinea ?
or the cannibals of Africa ?

Maybe that wud be SIGNIFICANT
if we got into a plane n flew there.

I have succeeded in arranging life
to be just the way that I LIKE IT.

I lead my friends into as much fun as we can find,
eating at the best restaurants for beauty & culinary hedonism,
staying at the finest, most luxurious hotels in our travels,
leading lives of hedonic delight.

The low intellectual capacity that u have attributed to me
did not interfere with our recent trip to Albany
for a seminar with the best experts on finding Einstein 's elusive
" Unified Field Theory " ( now called Membrane Theory )
to reconcile quantum mechanics with general relativity,
and we all did so without any multilations of any of our bodies;
we have found those to be quite unnecessary
to our having as much fun as possible.

It may well be stupid enuf
for him to screw himself out of a chance for a job
for which he takes the trouble to apply.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I did not comment about tatoos; ( read it again )
however, since u press the point:
OK, I will include tatoos among
self-destructive bodily acts,
indicative of harboring unseen anger,
which might be manifested at
so much of the world as is within reach, in the future.

When I was hiring, I 'd have taken that as a negative.

He might as well tatoo a big sign on his face saying:
" DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ME
or I 'll strike out against u,
when I get the chance. "

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Well David, I don't have unforseen anger
so you're analysis of those with tattoos and piercings is just utterly false.

Logic compels me to re-affirm
what I said. Each candidate for employment
will be judged by how he presents himself. Packaging counts.
U disagree ?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I am reminded of a very angry young man in the 1960s,
of my slight acquaintance at the NY Stock Exchange,
who arranged his hair vertically,
creating a vu that was successfully calculated to shock.
He was a very vocal anti-capitalist that did whatever
anti-capitalist acts he cud get away with on the job until he got fired.[/b]

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Are you saying that those of us with tattoos and piercings are anti-capitalists?

In candor, I can 't say that 100% of u r anti-capitalists,
but I believe that self-mutilation, more ofen than not,
tends to represent anti-capitalist, socialistic folks,
based upon my years of observation; again, I can 't say 100%.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

U mean like the Headhunters of New Guinea ?
or the cannibals of Africa ?

Maybe that wud be SIGNIFICANT
if we got into a plane n flew there.

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For being so intellectual you don't seem to know much about anything.

I wish I knew as much as u do.

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No, not headhunters and cannibals.
Plenty of tribes do it.

Yeah ? What do THAY eat ?

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Do some research before making stupid comments like that.

OK; sounds time-consuming, tho.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I have succeeded in arranging life
to be just the way that I LIKE IT.

I lead my friends into as much fun as we can find,
eating at the best restaurants for beauty & culinary hedonism,
staying at the finest, most luxurious hotels in our travels,
leading lives of hedonic delight.

The low intellectual capacity that u have attributed to me
did not interfere with our recent trip to Albany
for a seminar with the best experts on finding Einstein 's elusive
" Unified Field Theory " ( now called Membrane Theory )
to reconcile quantum mechanics with general relativity,
and we all did so without any multilations of any of our bodies;
we have found those to be quite unnecessary
to our having as much fun as possible.

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You sure have and in the process made yourself intolerant
and quite ignorant in my opinion.

Of WHAT did I make myself ignorant ?

I * TOLERATE * people mutilating their bodies,
tho their demonstrated choices
have diminished the merit of their minds, in my vu.
Its like choosing to wear dirty clothes,
when applying for a job; not a good idea,
but I tolerate them, altho I 'd probably hire better applicants.

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For being such an intellectual, you sure don't make it a point to spell correctly

I beg to DIFFER.
The way I spell is correct.
Everyone else, who fails to spell fonetically is rong.
I lead ( into efficiency and sound reasoning ) by EXAMPLE.

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or use proper grammar

I generally use conventional grammar,
except that I have no respect for the rationale
against splitting infinitives
( that in Latin it was ONE word; I 'll care about that,
when I write in Latin ).
Did u find an imperfection in my grammar ?

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or even bother to know what the hell you are talking about
(ie- the tribal tattoo issue--please see above)

I saw it.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

It may well be stupid enuf
for him to screw himself out of a chance for a job
for which he takes the trouble to apply.

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And anyone with enough sense wouldn't bother to hire an arrogant, intolerant ass like yourself...

Just as well,
since I have no wish to work for anyone else.
I just wanna have FUN.

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so would that make you stupid for showing your true colors?

No

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Some people still hold a tiny piece of hope that people like you
will quit judging by appearance and take a real look at them.

HOW ??

U have to judge what presents himself or herself,
in front of u.

What do u suggest ?
David

I do think there's an element of anger / self loathing / emotional problems with some tattooing and piercing. Why the hell else would anyone get a Prince Albert?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

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anyone with enough sense wouldn't bother to hire an arrogant, intolerant ass like yourself...

U think so, huh ?

That did not prove to be true.

When I was still practicing law,
as a trial attorney,
when clients approached me to help them out
with their legal concerns,
thay cared that I 'd get the job done for them SUCCESSFULLY.

Thay paid me hundreds of dollars per hour, for THAT.
Thay did not care about my arrogance nor intolerance.
( In point of fact, thay were eager that I NOT TOLERATE
the abuses of their rights, to which thay had been subjected. )
David

For being such an intellectual, you sure don't make it a point to spell correctly

I beg to DIFFER.
The way I spell is correct.
Everyone else, who fails to spell fonetically is rong.
I lead ( into efficiency and sound reasoning ) by EXAMPLE.

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For being such an intellectual, you sure don't make it a point to spell correctly

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I beg to DIFFER.
The way I spell is correct.
Everyone else, who fails to spell fonetically is rong.
I lead ( into efficiency and sound reasoning ) by EXAMPLE.

leed*

Bawb wrote:

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For being such an intellectual, you sure don't make it a point to spell correctly

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I beg to DIFFER.
The way I spell is correct.
Everyone else, who fails to spell fonetically is rong.
I lead ( into efficiency and sound reasoning ) by EXAMPLE.

leed*

Yeah; that 's good, Bawb.
Thank u.

That wud serve to distinguish leed
from the mineral.

I hope to call attention to the problem
of tolerating and perpetuating the inefficiency
of non-fonetic, atavistic spelling.

I have not polished it to the optimal
degree of refinement.
David