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YOU WOMEN ARE SOOOOO NAUGHTY!

 
 
Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:48 am
Wow - this book is a blast from the past. I read it in college (@10 years after it was first published) as part of womens discussion group. One thing the women agreed on was that they all had sexual fantasies, but few of them related to anything in My Secret Garden. I think we were all being honest when we said that a lot of the things were more gross than sexy (ie:dogs & donkeys, violent abduction & rape) and parts of the book were probably written by men pretending to be women. Most women admitted their fantasies had more in common with present day romance novels than with Ms. Fridays findings. The most common fantasy among the 20 women in the group - being "saved" by a handsome, wealthy man who wants to get married and have sex in exotic locations - Cinderella lives on.

Lord E. - I doubt your colleague would be embarrassed if you admit you peaked at the book. It is considered a class of early feminist writing. She also was not hiding it in a paper bag or fake cover. Most women know what is in it. You might even want to ask her what she thinks of it. Most women I know don't relate to the more extreme fantasies, but are grateful the topic was dragged out of the closet.
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the prince
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:51 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:
I've read halfway through, G...I'm now thinking I might be Bi....


Let me know when you know for sure. I have never had sex with royalty before.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:51 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:
It may help to load the cannon, Gus.


You spelled peashooter wrong.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:52 am
I certainly hope LE didn't "peak" at the book. Or he'll be buying this poor woman a new book! Laughing
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:52 am
Green Witch wrote:
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Lord E. - I doubt your colleague would be embarrassed if you admit you peaked at the book........


Well, I must admit that I peaked at the book alright, but do I have to tell her that?

Can't I just say that I peeked?
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:53 am
You can chose your own spelling in this case.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:56 am
I was a trifle disappointed that there were no pictures, though.
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:57 am
I think his Lordship's account could be entitled...

The Story of "Oh"!

Laughing
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:58 am
(My fantasy is to learn how to spell.)

I think you might be able to find the comic book version on the web.
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:01 am
My Secret Garden - don't worry about opening this!

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 09:12 am
BBB
The great love of my life lived our fantasies---his and mine.

BBB
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 10:19 am
Green Witch wrote:
(My fantasy is to learn how to spell.)

I think you might be able to find the comic book version on the web.


You're right! I've just paid my yearly subscription, and am waiting for their special 3D goggles to arrive.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 01:18 pm
I need to read this book............
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eoe
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 01:20 pm
Green Witch wrote:
The most common fantasy among the 20 women in the group - being "saved" by a handsome, wealthy man who wants to get married and have sex in exotic locations - Cinderella lives on.


Oh please... Rolling Eyes That's the only fantasy that they would admit to, more than likely. Laughing
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 01:39 pm
I read that book too <grins>

It was very interesting, of course ... <ahem>

What did strike me, unpleasantly, was the dominance of the theme of .. well, domination.

Too many fantasies ranging from "being taken" to close-to or outright rape, as I remember it.

That made me think. Sexual fantasies are the place where any kind of - well, stuff we may have been socialised with but have decided consciously to discard later - for example about gender roles - will survive longest, I guess. Because they're almost completely in the instinctive, instinctual, subconcsious realm. You dont censor your fantasies. (I hope).

But note - My Secret Garden was from 1973. Flower Power time, for sure, but the age of women who had still mostly grown up in the 50s era and its aftermath.

And - here's where you take note, Lord Ellpus and other, errm, avid readers among us men - that's why there is even better news, still.

It's is in the book Nancy Friday authored 18 years later: Women on Top: How Real Life Has Changed Women's Sexual Fantasies (1991).

Fantasies of a whole new generation of women.

And if you thought the ones in My Secret Garden were daring, then whooaa ... this book shows up a new level yet. Embarrassed

Fun reading <grins> (Instructive reading, too...).

And what (pleasantly) struck me: the general direction of these fantasies was actually notably different. Still all the same fantasies as in the previous book, of course. But fewer examples of the fantasy of total surrender to brutal men. More adventures that they have in mind to actively take us men on, in their turn - for mutual benefit <grin>.

Generally they feel less... burdened, less negative. And more bold.

So read that one too.

Have fun Smile
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 01:42 pm
Oh, and may I just add that I used to have both of these books, and I never got either back from the two girls I lent them to, respectively, a decade ago?

I'm just saying. Dont lend out these books.

Gift them to your girlfriend/wife, instead Mr. Green
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 07:14 pm
Steering this conversation towards the men on board, has anyone read My Secret Beer?

A fascinating look into the desire of man to conquest beer.

About twenty different men were interviewed and they shared their stories on their lust for beer and the steps they took to acquire the nectar.

Very poignant. It offers a rare glimpse in the thought process of the beer swiller.

I have a copy of the book on my bedstand.
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:27 pm
How have I not heard of this book? How did I not know LordE was a lawyer?
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:28 pm
Undoubtedly right next to a well thumbed (and mysteriously crusty) copy of PlaySwine.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:29 pm
I think Lord is a probation officer, not a lawyer.
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