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Good news: two Book launch parties banned

 
 
Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:27 pm
I was delighted to read this. Two Book launches have been banned because the author had the nerve to question Israel.
I think banning the launch is not good enough, the book should also be banned, it should not be allowed to question Israel's actions because this is clearly anti-semitic. We must strive harder to prevent such authors producing such books and ban the ones that have been published.

Well done to those who orchestrated the ban! Smile

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1892431,00.html
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US free speech row grows as author says Jewish complaints stopped launch party

· Row over postscript on Palestinians' plight
· British-born academic claims lectures cancelled

Ed Pilkington in New York
Wednesday October 11, 2006
The Guardian

Jewish deportees in the Drancy transit camp, France, their last stop before the German concentration camps
Jewish deportees in the Drancy transit camp, France, their last stop before the German concentration camps. Photograph: EPA


The British-based author and former publisher Carmen Callil has become embroiled in a growing dispute over the limits of freedom of speech in America after a party celebrating her new book on Vichy France was cancelled because of the opinion she expresses about the modern state of Israel.

A party in honour of Bad Faith, Callil's account of Louis Darquier, the Vichy official who arranged the deportation of thousands of Jews, was to have taken place at the French embassy in New York last night but was cancelled after the embassy became aware of a paragraph in the postscript of the book. In the postscript Callil says she grew anxious while researching the "helpless terror of the Jews of France" to see "what the Jews of Israel were passing on to the Palestinian people. Like the rest of humanity, the Jews of Israel 'forget' the Palestinians. Everyone forgets."

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The embassy said the passage had been brought to its attention after a guest declined the invitation because of it. A spokesman denied allegations from Callil, reported by Reuters, that "fundamentalist Jews" had complained and had the party shut down.

The row over Callil's book is the latest element in a dispute about restrictions on freedom of speech in the US in relation to comments on Israel.

A British-born academic based at New York University has had two speaking engagements called off after criticism of his views. Tony Judt, an American Jew who was brought up in Britain, was due to speak on the subject of the influence of the pro-Israeli lobby on US foreign policy and at a separate location under the title War and Genocide in European Memory Today. The first lecture was cancelled by the Polish consulate in New York, which owned the venue, while Mr Judt pulled out of the second after he was asked by the organisers to refrain from direct references to Israel. In both cases pro-Israeli organisations and individuals had raised objections to Mr Judt's views on Israel.

Mr Judt was one of six people who took part in a debate in New York last month organised by the London Review of Books on the controversy sparked by its article on The Israel Lobby. During that debate Mr Judt argued that pro-Israeli groups acted "to silence debate on the subject", adding that criticism of Israel had come to be thought of as un-American.

His talk last week on a similar theme at a venue owned by the Polish consulate was cancelled by the consul, Krzysztof Kasprzyk, after inquiries from two Jewish organisations. Mr Kasprzyk told the Washington Post that he had been subjected to "delicate pressure".

Abraham Foxman, director of one of the groups, the Anti-Defamation League, denied any pressurising. "All we did was to ask the consulate whether Tony Judt was speaking on its property. The decision to cancel was the Polish consulate's alone." Mr Judt riposted: "If all Mr Foxman was doing was making an inquiry, then he does an awful lot of inquiring. People are frequently being scared off."

Mr Judt said his views had been misrepresented. "The only thing I have ever said is that Israel as it is currently constituted, as a Jewish state with different rights for different groups, is an anachronism in the modern age of democracies."

In the second incident Mr Judt pulled out from a talk on the Holocaust at Manhattan College after a Jewish leader, Rabbi Avi Weiss, warned he would hold a protest of Holocaust survivors outside the event. "This speech would have been a desecration," Rabbi Weiss told the Guardian.

Mr Judt countered that to threaten to stage a protest of survivors was "obscene, close to pornography".
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:29 pm
Are you for real? I suspect not.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:31 pm
Someone really loves the word 'ban'.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:36 pm
Dartagnan wrote:
Are you for real? I suspect not.


what?

If you have a problem with my opinions I dont really care.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:51 pm
danny_boy wrote:
Dartagnan wrote:
Are you for real? I suspect not.


what?

If you have a problem with my opinions I dont really care.


I think you're making an attempt to play the role of agent provacateur. It's a clumsy attempt, but knock yourself out if you wish.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:59 pm
Dartagnan wrote:
danny_boy wrote:
Dartagnan wrote:
Are you for real? I suspect not.


what?

If you have a problem with my opinions I dont really care.


I think you're making an attempt to play the role of agent provacateur. It's a clumsy attempt, but knock yourself out if you wish.


I think your attempt at trolling is fabulous :wink:
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 06:47 pm
I suspect you may be assuming a phony identity, danny. Not sure if you are massagatto, but something ain't right here.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 07:50 pm
Books Are Burning
XTC

Books are burning
In the main square, and I saw there
The fire eating the text
Books are burning
In the still air
And you know where they burn books
People are next
I believe the printed word should be forgiven
Doesn't matter what it said
Wisdom hotline from the dead back to the living
Key to larder for your heart and head
Books are burning
In our own town, watch us turn 'round
And cast our glances elsewhere
Books are burning
In the playground
Smell of burnt book is not unlike human hair
I believe the printed word is more than sacred
Beyond the gauge of good or bad
The human right to let your soul fly free and naked
Above the violence of the fearful and sad
The church of matches
Anoints in ignorance with gasoline
The church of matches
Grows fat by breathing in the smoke of dreams
It's quite obscene
Books are burning
More each day now, and I pray now
You boys will tire of these games
Books are burning
I hope somehow, this will allow
A phoenix up from the flames
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 07:59 pm
I like to choose books based on their BTU capacity.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:04 pm
Thanks for that, dj.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:14 pm
I also agree with D'Art's assessment. By the way you phrase yourself, it seems you are either incredibly naive and spouting the propaganda of someone else's agenda, or you are playing devil's advocate.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:14 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
I suspect you may be assuming a phony identity, danny. Not sure if you are massagatto, but something ain't right here.


Nah. Danny Boy isn't Massagato/BernardR/MarionT/Chickzaira etc, etc., Edgar. Almost as vitriolic, but lacking a certain finesse.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:11 pm
There appears to be a pattern emerging, any threads that defend Israels right to exist are attacked and trolled, where do all you come from? Lebanon.
Stick to the topic and stop the bu**sh*t about conspiracy theories, next you wil be blaming Israel for global warming like in the other crazy threads.
You people need to be locked up for your own sakes.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:13 pm
cjhsa wrote:
I like to choose books based on their BTU capacity.


I've taken that into consideration. On a long backpacking trip, you can use pages you've read to start the evening fire. That cheap, textured paper tends to burn a little better than the slick expensive stuff.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:19 pm
patiodog wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
I like to choose books based on their BTU capacity.


I've taken that into consideration. On a long backpacking trip, you can use pages you've read to start the evening fire. That cheap, textured paper tends to burn a little better than the slick expensive stuff.

why dont you take some liberal sh*t that they pass off as books and burn that?? It burns well on days and evenings I find, and when you have no need of fire you can wipe your ass with it...... :wink:
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:20 pm
danny_boy wrote:
There appears to be a pattern emerging, any threads that defend Israels right to exist are attacked and trolled, where do all you come from? Lebanon.
Stick to the topic and stop the bu**sh*t


i didn't know this thread was about isreals right to exist, i thought it was about the cancellation of a book launch
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:24 pm
Mmmm, crackers and nuts.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:27 pm
and dip, definitely some dip of some kind here abouts
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 12 Oct, 2006 04:29 pm
And all of it salty.
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