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STIFF RECORDS!

 
 
Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 01:34 pm
Now....if you've clicked on this thread, you are here for possibly three reasons.

1. You were thinking that you had missed out on a Competition somewhere, involving male porn stars.

2. You immediately recognised the name of a London record label, created in 1976.

3. You are just a nosey bugger.



STIFF RECORDS

Over the course of this weekend just gone, Stiff records were featured in a two part documentary on BBC4, and was obviously a "must see" for anyone interested in this particular period of Brit music.

1976 was quite a turning point for the British music scene, with the sudden explosion of Punk, and Stiff Records were right there at the outset, having been set up by Dave Robinson and Jake Riviera (aka Andrew Jakeman)

With a £400 donation from Lee Brilleaux of Dr Feelgood, Robinson and Riviera were able to set Nick Lowe on his way, with "So it goes", which in turn, set Stiff on it's way..

Although Stiff had a punk reputation, it hosted a wide variety of players. Amongst the first few Stiff artists were:

Elvis Costello, -"angry young rocker " (Stiff's description)

Ian Dury and the Blockheads, -"a blend of jazz and pub rock, creators of rock and roll anthem "Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll"

Wreckless Eric, - "wry pub rocker"

Kirsty MacColl

Madness, - " ska revivalists from Camden"

Tracey Ullman, - "over-the-top pop"

Larry Wallis, - " crazed long haired punk"

Dave Edmunds' Rockpile, - "rockabilly revivalists band". (Edmunds was signed to his own record label, but he and his band acted as Nick Lowe's (who was their bassist) backing group on his recordings).

The Adverts, - " genuine second generation punk"

Graham Parker and The Rumour, - "White English Soul band" (The Rumour being the remnants of Brinsley Schwartz)

Jona Lewie, - "Pub rocker & Keyboard player"
Devo, - "kitschy futuristic new wave"
The Damned, - "their original incarnation"
Any Trouble
Richard Hell and The Voidoids,

Nick Lowe, - "Witty songwriter/singer and "in house" producer"

Sean Tyla and the Tyla Gang, - "early power pop"

Plasmatics, - " mock shock rock from New York arts graduates"

The Pogues, - "traditional Irish folk/punk fusion band, fronted by Shane MacGowan"

Lene Lovich, - " U.S. singer/songwriter with impressive vocal range"

Rachel Sweet

Furniture (who?)



Stiff worked on a shoestring most of the time, and became well known for arranging outrageous stunts, such as getting Elvis Costello to busk outside the HQ of CBS records until he was arrested, which of course was properly photographed for the following day's newspapers.

Stiff was also well remembered for their eccentric but highly effective promotional campaigns, such as the two package tours in 1977 and 1978, featuring most of the artist roster performing at alternating times each night.

Robinson and Riviera were a fiery management combination, and after a series of disagreements, Riviera left Stiff in early 1978 to form the short-lived Radar Records, taking Elvis Costello and Nick Lowe with him as a settlement package.

Riviera's departure coincided with the end of the 5 Live Stiff's Tour which showcased the talents of emerging artist Ian Dury whose album New Boots & Panties raced up the charts and kept the label in business over the following months.

In 1979, Robinson signed Madness whose considerable commercial success, both in Britain and abroad, would keep the label afloat for several years.
The next few years were the halcyon period for Stiff, with many Top 20 single chart placings (including the label's first No. 1 single: "Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick" by Ian Dury) and a number of big-selling albums. The label expanded rapidly and moved premises twice. It also continued to release dozens of totally obscure and often uncommercial releases (e.g. The Wit & Wisdom of Ronald Reagan) many of which might well have only seen the light of day because of connections with Stiff management.

Unfortunately, the good times were not to last and a combination of spiralling debts and a lack of managerial direction forced a sale to Island Records in 1984. Madness left Stiff under a cloud, the Island deal wasn't a success, and Dave Robinson regained control of the newly independent label in 1986. By this time, however, Stiff's heyday was over and it lasted only a few more months. The last few releases barely made the shops as the label disintegrated <sob>.

So? What were your memories regarding Stiff?

Indeed, have you ever heard of them?

Favourite songs/bands?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 07:35 pm
Nobody has made me want to go through my record collection so much as you m'lord.

Didn't Stiff represent "The Gang of Four"? They were one of my favorites but maybe I'm mistaken.

Elvis Costello is God to me. I will love him forever and for always.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 07:36 pm
Oh yeah.....

Where in the world might I be able to see that documentary?

Can I order tapes from the BBC?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 07:42 pm
ahhhhhhhh Rachel Sweet

still have some of her work on vinyl upstairs

I recognize a lot of the other artists, but I was mad for Rachel.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 08:25 pm
Somewhere around here I have a button box. Inside there is a button that says "President Nixon, Now More Than Ever" and one that says "If It Ain't Stiff, It Ain't Worth A F***".

In a more prominent place I have a button that says "F*** Art, Let's Dance". I can see it from where I'm sitting right now, actually. I believe this button came as part of a Madness record. It has very Madness-esque silouettes of dancers on it and I recall it dates to that time frame.

I remember wearing the button when I was a student at the SAIC.

It is probably one of the reasons I "didn't last" there.

Now I have a mission: who made the button and where did I get it.

I'm going to go take a photo of it to post and you tell me if this is or isn't Madness related....
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 08:44 pm
Okay. It's a crappy photo but I didn't want to dick with lighting it....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/boomerangagain/madness.jpg

Tell me that's not Madness!
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 09:07 pm
Yeah, Stiff is all over the liner notes to the first Damned album. Not only are those songs indelible, the production on Damned Damned Damned is superior to the Pistols debut, which came later.

Didn't realize Stiff was involved with Richard Hell. But I guess they recorded a few singles in London with Nick Lowe. I'm a huge fan of Blank Generation.

I'd put the aforementioned albums on a top five list of roots punk albums.
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Sun 17 Sep, 2006 10:32 pm
boomerang wrote:
Okay. It's a crappy photo but I didn't want to dick with lighting it....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/boomerangagain/madness.jpg

Tell me that's not Madness!


Perhaps the Specials?

I'm in the same boat with B'ang as far as Elvis goes. College, Devo and Elvis Costello hit all at the same time... I've got an Uncotrollable Urge to raid my cassete stockpiles.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 12:39 am
ah yes stiff records, still have a 12 inch by ian drury somewhere

love the line up, wreckless eric (take the k.a.s.h.), kirsty macoll (new england), tracey ulman (you broke my heart in 17 places) and many more

used to have a rather good live album, and still have the box set of cd's

just recently e music started offering a lot of the labels artists releases for download, so i've been able to supplement my collection

larry wallis (police car), someboddy or other (le'ts loot the supermarket).................... Cool
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 12:43 am
http://www.artofthemix.org/UploadImages/79372378BUY_1.jpg
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Three P
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 03:58 am
This is bringing back some memories. My favourite stiff artiste has to be Ian Dury. Regarding the Specials, I'm pretty sure they were not on the Stiff label.
The Damned were the first punk style music I ever heard, but they were not as good as the Pistols or Buzzcocks.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 08:15 am
Blimey! I thought for a minute that Suggs had dropped in to say hello!

Welcome to A2K, Three P.

You're correct as far as the Specials are concerned...they were a Coventry based group, and part of "Two Tone Records" (?), I believe.

They were a sort of mirror image of Madness, to my mind. Madness would err on the side of...well....madness, really. Loads of stupidity, amazing vids and amusing songs.
The Specials were more inclined to lean towards the serious and dark side, apparent in songs such as "A Message To You Rudy", "Ghost Town", "Too Much Too Young" .

Boom...I'm sorry if I keep making you drag through your record collection. I shall try to keep my music stuff limited to Engelbert Humperdink from now on, so that you can resist temptation.


The link for the BBC docu......I'll try to dig it up now, but I won't promise too much.

Nice to see I'm not the only Stiff freak here. I thought for one ghastly minute, shortly after I posted the thread, that nobody in the USA would have any interest, and I would end up talking to myself.


Right....the link.....
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boomerang
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 11:06 am
Yes I have no Engelberg in my collection so I won't be at all tempted.

I'm thinking that it has been agreed then that my button is not Madness but The Specials?

I was much more of a Madness fan so I supposed it was them. They were the heavy, heavy monster sound of our Soul Train lost weekends.
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Three P
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 03:03 pm
No, I am certain that your button was a Madness logo. The slogan was definitely from Stiff, and it was Madness that were signed up to Stiff, not the Specials.
The Specials were signed up to 2tone records, from the Midlands.
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 06:53 pm
Sorry guys, I wasn't intending to intimate the Specials were a Stiff act but that they used the Rude Boy icon along with Madness, The Selecter, English Beat...


http://rude-boy-joe.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/rudeboyrudegirl.jpg
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