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Desperate Catholics find "rent-a-priests" online

 
 
Reyn
 
Reply Thu 31 Aug, 2006 11:42 am
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Desperate Catholics find "rent-a-priests" online

Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:33 AM ET

By Holly McKenna

ALBANY, New York (Reuters) - Some are Catholics who see their church as stuck in the past. Others are believers who happen to be divorced, pregnant before marriage or gay. A few just can't find a priest when they need one.

Roman Catholics shunned by the official church are "renting" married priests in times of crisis and celebration.

They turn to http://www.rentapriest.com, a Web site with 2,500 Catholic priests in a national database known as "God's Yellow Pages."

Virtually all the priests in the database have left their official clerical ministries due to the Roman Catholic Church's mandatory celibacy rule, but they continue to conduct weddings, usually for a fee, while performing baptisms, last rites and funerals for free, in keeping with the practice of officially recognized priests.

"We are doing Jesus' work and apparently the church isn't," said Louise Haggett, director of Celibacy Is The Issue (CITI) ministries, which runs the site and helped arrange 3,000 weddings last year.

The group also is working to change the Catholic church's ban on married priests.

Haggett said the Internet is a popular source for rent-a-priests because there is a shortage. Twenty-seven percent of U.S. parishes lack a resident priest, according to a U.S. Conference of Bishops study.

Priests are aging, churches are closing and fewer priests are being ordained. The church knows there are fewer priests than decades ago but there are plenty to meet the spiritual needs of the faithful, said Ron Menty of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany.

"Sometimes the reason why people go to this source concerns the rules, regulations and expectations of the church," Menty said. "Sometimes a priest outside the community feels freer in providing services."

The going rate for a wedding in New York is about $500, cheaper in other states.

FAITHFUL TO JESUS, NOT RULES

Haggett founded the site in 1992 when her mother was in a nursing home and unable to find a parish priest.

CITI locates, recruits, certifies and promotes married or gay Roman Catholic priests. Haggett said 21 canons in church law validate married priests.

But the church does not recognize these priests because they violated their vows, said Ken Goldfarb, spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany.

The church does recognize some married Protestants who became priests later in life.

"These rent-a-priests have already taken their vows, then married. That's the distinction," Goldfarb said.

Richard Hasselbach, who married after he was a priest for 13 years, defends the organization because many people are turned off by what he calls the inflexibility and rigidity of "the corporate Catholic Church."

He routinely marries people who are divorced, pregnant or gay and counsels people who were sexually abused by Roman Catholic priests. He celebrates Mass in his home and performs marriages outside of church buildings. The Roman Catholic Church does not allow wedding ceremonies to be held outside.

Jim and Mary Ann Graves of Batavia, Illinois, were married in their backyard by Bob Scanlan, whom they found on the Web site. Both were raised Catholic, married for the first time in the church, and then divorced. Together they have eight children.

"We never considered an annulment because it's a real hassle," Mary Ann Graves said. "We were looking for something different than the first time, but we wanted a religious and spiritual ceremony."

Faith is a relationship with Christ and not about rules and dogma, Hasselbach said. "Once you're a priest, you're always a priest," he said. "If I fail to respond to the call to minister, I do at my own peril."
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Shoe Et Tu
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 02:31 am
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counsels people who were sexually abused by Roman Catholic priests.


How is he qualified to do this?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 05:02 am
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Virtually all the priests in the database have left their official clerical ministries due to the Roman Catholic Church's mandatory celibacy rule, but they continue to conduct weddings, usually for a fee, while performing baptisms, last rites and funerals for free, in keeping with the practice of officially recognized priests.


Interesting. I am curious as to the legal status of these priests, since they are no longer connected to the church. Are the marriages that they perform, legal?
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 09:01 am
I think according to PA laws, the important part of the religious ceremony for the civil authorities is after the ceremony when the bridal couple signs the registry--with witnesses.

Also, check out:

http://www.ficotw.org/faq.html
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 09:36 am
This is turning out to be a real depressing day. One of Reyn's H.I. posts ending up in Religion?

I guess I should be grateful it didn't end up in Politics.

I'm going back to bed....
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 10:47 am
Reyn wrote:
This is turning out to be a real depressing day. One of Reyn's H.I. posts ending up in Religion?

I guess I should be grateful it didn't end up in Politics.

I'm going back to bed....


Post religious items and they get put in religious threads. No mystery.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 11:54 am
I disagree. It's a Human Interest thing.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 12:12 pm
Reyn wrote:
I disagree. It's a Human Interest thing.


Apparently, the mods don't think so. Who did you expect your audience to be and what reactions were you expecting? How did you determine that the Catholics (I am not one) were desperate?
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 12:27 pm
What, I'm not allowed to disagree?

In my opinion, it's got nothing to do with religion. It's about a shortage of priests, which reflects human interest.

Either way, if I knew it was going to end up here, I wouldn't have posted it.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 12:43 pm
Kids today don't want to become priests. When I was a youthful altar boy the pastor at my church tried to get me to become a priest. At first I thought it might be a great way to meet chicks until I found out the truth. As far as I know the priests at my church were not pedophiles but I could say without hesitation they were not happy.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 01:40 pm
Reyn wrote:
What, I'm not allowed to disagree?

In my opinion, it's got nothing to do with religion. It's about a shortage of priests, which reflects human interest.

Either way, if I knew it was going to end up here, I wouldn't have posted it.


Of course you can disagree. That is one of the great things about this country.

It is just that if you are going to post something of a religious nature, you shouldn't whine when it is put into a religious thread. Oh, and it is not about a shortage of Priests, it is about Priests who disagree with the established Church.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 01:42 pm
Oh, I'm sorry you feel I was whining. I'll go climb back under my rock in H.I. again.

Byebye...
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Fri 1 Sep, 2006 02:22 pm
I think the story shows another aspect of the American "Cafeteria Catholics" approach to the Roman church.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 2 Sep, 2006 03:16 am
NickFun wrote:
Kids today don't want to become priests. When I was a youthful altar boy the pastor at my church tried to get me to become a priest. At first I thought it might be a great way to meet chicks until I found out the truth. As far as I know the priests at my church were not pedophiles but I could say without hesitation they were not happy.


You make me laugh, NF Smile You know, I heard or read somewhere that some time ago, a Pope just arbitrarily decided priests should be celibate and that was that. Who was that moron? Do you know?
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 07:50 pm
Mame wrote:
NickFun wrote:
Kids today don't want to become priests. When I was a youthful altar boy the pastor at my church tried to get me to become a priest. At first I thought it might be a great way to meet chicks until I found out the truth. As far as I know the priests at my church were not pedophiles but I could say without hesitation they were not happy.


You make me laugh, NF Smile You know, I heard or read somewhere that some time ago, a Pope just arbitrarily decided priests should be celibate and that was that. Who was that moron? Do you know?
Not a moron. Priests who do not marry have no heirs. The church then becomes heir to all priestly acquired property.
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