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NY "charm school" helps men perfect the pick-up

 
 
Reyn
 
Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 12:44 pm
"Charm School Boot Camp"? I found this article funny as hell. Laughing

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New York "charm school" helps men perfect the pick-up

By Matthew Verrinder

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Ben had a rough Friday night picking up women on the Hotel Gansevoort's balcony after being coldly rejected by two attractive blondes.

The 23-year-old documentary filmmaker, who asked his last name not be used for fear of ridicule, suffers from an acute case of "premature ejectulation" -- ejecting himself early from promising conversations with women for fear of rejection.

Such was the diagnosis from the coaches of "Charm School Boot Camp," a three-day crash course on seducing women that Ben and five other men paid $1,600 apiece for in early August.

"If I were to look at it objectively, I would feel really good about it, and then just leave," Ben said.

Ben is not the only man with crippling fears when it comes to chatting up women. That's why Charm School, run by an Ann Arbor, Michigan-based company called Charisma Arts, has no problem finding men who need intense guidance and fieldwork approaching women at places like bookstores and bars.

"People think we're teaching guys with no confidence who are bad with women," said Charisma Arts co-founder Wayne Elise. "We teach guys how to be themselves in a very unnatural environment, how to cold approach strangers and make them comfortable enough to open themselves up."

Charisma Arts runs weekend Charm School seminars in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, London and Sydney. Some students find out about the course from the company's Web site, www.charismaarts.com.

The Charm School's lesson plan stays away from canned lines and instructs men to think on their feet when talking to women, to put their insecurities aside and react naturally to a women's subtle cues, said Johnny Saviour, 21, a Charisma Arts instructor.

The class starts on Friday afternoon with the instructors going over Elise's attraction theory. They then practice the theory by approaching each other as if they were women, and they do word association exercises to get their minds tuned into keeping a conversation with a woman rolling.

After a night approaching women at a bar or club, the instructors hold a debriefing the next morning and go over what the participants did right and wrong. Then they head out again to hit on more women.

THE MORNING AFTER...

Ben and the five other participants, ranging in age from 21 to 43, met with their four coaches Saturday at a McDonald's near Union Square, the morning after a deflating evening of hitting on women at the Gansevoort.

Sam, a stocky, recent college graduate from Boston with shaved head and thick chain around his neck, said he is tired of sleeping with "drunk chicks" and wants to learn how to properly "pursue and attain" the women of his choice.

Tim, 23, a New York piano tuner, said his new full-time job makes it hard for him to meet women.

"This was something I was willing to splurge on," said Tim, who also did not want to give his last name. "I live in a city with millions of women, and I want to meet some of them."

Ben said that despite his lack of luck with women on Friday night, he tried to "learn a little from each interaction."

Forty minutes later, he was standing in a nearby Barnes & Noble book store, eyeing a small woman in a hat and glasses who was thumbing through a book. He sidled up to her and took a book from a shelf near her, but she didn't notice him and soon walked away without talking to him.

"A lot of guys defeat themselves right away," Saviour whispered, looking on. "If he thinks she's not interested, he'll clam up. That's exactly what happened."

To get Ben back on track, Saviour has him talk to a male store clerk so he can interact with another person without pressure. Soon, Ben approaches another woman but she too walks away without noticing him.

"I feel a bit shaken up," Ben said after his latest rejection. "There is information coming from a lot of different places. I feel a bit like a pickup artist."

By the early hours of Sunday at a crowded rooftop bar on Fifth Avenue, Ben finally has a confident glow. Other Charm School students are partying on the fringes of a drunken bachelorette party full of New Jersey women.

But Ben, dressed in a dark shirt and slacks and standing tall in the middle of the crowd, has already talked to four groups of women by 11:30 p.m., made some connections and is on the lookout for more.

Just a day into Charm School, Ben says he has begun to absorb some of its tenets, like honestly justifying to the women why he has approached them, genuinely stating their uniqueness, then making slight, gentlemanly physical contact, like a touch of the arm at just the right time.

"I would say in terms of last night's performance, I've definitely found my path to fulfilment," he said. "Last night I felt uncomfortable, but I've taken in what they've taught me. I've been myself, and it's worked."
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 02:31 pm
Men in NYC need to take lessons on how to pick up women??? Shocked Laughing

Man, it looks like Kicky left us at JUST the wrong time! This could have solved all his problems! (Well, a few of them anyway.)
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 03:11 pm
You kiddin'? I think Kicky's teaching there.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 03:53 pm
New Yorker need it, they're so rude and snooty, charm school could
do wonders for them.

Kicky is probably married already and on his honeymoon to Sicily.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 04:44 pm
Perhaps some of the guys that are attending this school, are looking in the wrong places to meet women. I think bars /nightclubs are probably the worst. It seems like a very artificial setting where you're bound to fail, being compared to the next person standing behind you, etc.
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Doctor Scrat
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 05:29 pm
And what about women that choose wrong place to meet men?

"My boyfriend drinks too much".
"Where did you meet him?"
"At a bar".

Well, daaah!
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 06:10 pm
So let's just agree, that bars/nightclubs are a bad place to meet
the spouse for life or as the Germans say "life segment partner".

By the way Doctor Scrat, have you met Doctor S already? Very Happy
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 06:23 pm
Life Segment Partner, now there's a great term.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 07:04 pm
Bars are no different than meeting people anywhere else.

This isn't the first school I've heard of like this. There's others where they watch you in "the field" and then evaluate.
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 08:19 pm
There are exceptions to every rule. I met my hubby in a bar, drinkin' and dancin'. Yep, just like you're "not supposed to." That was 25 happy years ago.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 08:42 pm
He drinks and dances!!!

Wow

Just got back from watching a bunch of 20 somethings interact while being blasted by my son's band.

Note on that later.

Joe(I'm going to reply to the other msg, I just got back in town)Nation
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CerealKiller
 
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Reply Sat 19 Aug, 2006 02:30 am
You can never have enough people teaching others how to be themselves...for a fee.
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