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Exclusion when selling home

 
 
Chai
 
Reply Tue 11 Apr, 2006 06:54 pm
No, I'm not selling, but while doing my taxes started browsing around the IRS website, and thought of this question.

I know in the US that other conditions being met (like living in the home long enough, etc.) that is you sell the house, 250K of capital gains are excluded if you are single, 500K is excluded if you are married.

Well, according to what I can make out from the irs website, if your spouse dies in the same tax year you sell your house, the whole $500k is excluded.

Well, wouldn't that suck if your spouse decided to kick off on Dec 31, and couldn't hold on until Jan 1, giving you a year to sell the home. Rolling Eyes

It doesn't seem right that someone who is now widowed, and may want to sell their biggest assest they will get screwed depending on the time frame of the death.

Does anyone know if there is any provision made for a surviving spouse who was widowed late in a tax year? I would think they should give you a year after the death or something.
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fishin
 
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Reply Tue 11 Apr, 2006 07:32 pm
I'm not cozy enough with that portion of the tax system to even guess. A lot of what is in the tax code seems to be left to luck. Along the same track, if your kid is born on Dec 31st you can claim them for the entire year.

I do suppose that there has to be some sort of objective cut-off point but you would think there would be some sort of provision to handle an end-of-year death.
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Chai
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 04:22 am
You know, I googled this subject after posting, and checked out this one website where this question was asked....

without looking back at the answer...it's like this....

if your spouse dies and you don't sell the house by the end of the tax year, they use a step up basis to figure the base cost of your house.

Normally, you would use the cost of the house substract from its current fair market value to figure the capital gain.

In this case, you would take 1/2 the original cost of the house, PLUS 1/2 of the fair market value as of the date of the death and you use that as the current base.

I ran those new figures, using several different scenarios, and compared it to the usual way of doing things, and this way, it doesn't seem you incur any significant gain, if any.

Well, that's good. At least this way, someone who has lived in a home and watched it appreciate significantly over the years will not have to pay through the nose if they sell their home.

Maybe they should do the same thing with babies. Laughing
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 04:25 am
take it easy on new year's eve -- no excitement Wink
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Chai
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 04:36 am
Region Philbis wrote:
take it easy on new year's eve -- no excitement Wink


DAMN YOU! BREATHE! Laughing

Actually, New Year's Eve is a rest up day.

My anniverserary is New Years Day.....so, I feel pretty good about that. Cool
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 11:34 am
Smart Chai - getting married on New Year's Day - much smarter than New Year's Eve as lots of people do. You are then taxed the "marriage penalty" rate for the entire year while you were only married for that year for a few hours.

You on the other hand did the smart thing. I have advised lots of people to do just that - simply wait one day and save money. Some people just take romance over money.
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Chai
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 11:50 am
oh we just wanted the day off every year.

My husband has been married so many times, but somehow, I "stuck"

Let's see, Wife #1 and Wife #2 were the same woman....they married out of high school, for 6 years...divorced....remarried about 8 DAYS later...stayed married for another 6 years.

Wife #3 is the mother of his daughter, now 25...that lasted 6 years too.

Wife # 4 was less than two years. He and I both married others at the same time, even though we'd known each other (in the biblical sense) for several years...then we both left our spouses and ran off with each other.

We just passed the 12 year mark.

His wedding dates:

Christmas Eve
New Years Day
St. Patrick Day
Halloween
Ground Hogs Day

His brother says "That boy sure likes wedding cake!"
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