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"French Women Don't Get Fat"

 
 
Reply Sun 9 Apr, 2006 05:47 pm
I'm very interested in this book, but haven't bought it yet. Can anyone tell me if this is a good read if one is interested in French Culture?

If you read it, did you like it? Why or why not?

Thanks! :wink:
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sun 9 Apr, 2006 05:51 pm
i believe littlek read it, she was recounting it to me the other day. sounded great.
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Sun 9 Apr, 2006 06:14 pm
Did she mention anything about the book in terms of French culture?
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sun 9 Apr, 2006 06:18 pm
well, yes. it is very much about their relationship with food, as i recall. food is to be enjoyed and cherished in french culture. not something that is to be gobbled down and then torture you because you gain weight.... But: remember i haven't read it. i'll send littlek over here when she gets home.
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 03:15 pm
I hope to hear from someone who's read this, it sounds like such an interesting book!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 06:23 pm
I've read reviews of the book, seems about six months ago. I wouldn't mind at least looking at it myself. Have you checked a2k's amazon link on the home page? Sometimes there are reader reviews there.
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 06:27 pm
Yeah, I read the reviews. They left me wanting more :smile:
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 07:19 pm
So.... buy it, and tell us.
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Mon 17 Apr, 2006 04:54 pm
Its not in my budget to buy it right now, unfortunately.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 17 Apr, 2006 04:54 pm
Library?
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 04:26 am
The library near me doesn't have it. If I could get it soon I wouldn't have started the thread. :smile:
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nick17
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2006 08:00 am
yes they do
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2006 08:20 am
Rather than buy the book, just ask yourself why they don't get fat.

The big thing that struck me when I first went to France and met my brother's French family (he married a French girl and moved there in '81), was that, as Dag has already noted, they don't abuse food.

Chocolate? Only the finest quality is purchased. They eat a square or two, and put the rest away for another day.

Wine? I have NEVER seen any of the French women drink more than a single glass at a sitting. Sipped and enjoyed.

McDonalds? In the semi rural part of France where he lives, they tried to open one. It was boycotted from day one (parents banning their kids from going there) as it was seen as providing unhealthy food. Simple as that. It closed down after six months. Unfortunately, it is now starting to take hold in many parts of France. One day, the new French will be as fat and unhealthy as the rest of us.

Food in general? Mainly home cooked, from good quality products, made to good traditional recipes. Lots of courses consisting of small portions of good, wholesome food. Salad course (always), then cooked meat with fresh veg, very small yet appetising dessert.

School meals are usually just as good as they would get at home.

They don't exercise any more than we do. They just don't pig out on crap.

For now that is.........

There are rumblings that the younger generation are rapidly turning towards our type of lifestyle, including alcohol consumption to excess and unhealthy eating. Whether France will manage to stem the tide is anyones guess.

I hope they succeed.
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Stray Cat
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 10:49 pm
I heard about this book and read a few reviews of it. I copied some of the major points, one of which is that the French eat real foods. If they eat cheese, for instance, they eat the real thing, not the processed crap.

In fact, the French believe that dairy (whole milks, whole cheese, whole yogurt, real butter) and dairy fat, vegetable fat (olive oil), and fat from ducks and geese are healthy; not healthy are fats from beef and pork.

What Lord Ellupus said about wine being "sipped and enjoyed" is true; this leads to another important point that we Americans need to learn from are European counterparts.

Our lifestyle is so rushed -- we tend to rush through our meals the same way we rush through everything else in our day. The French take their time enjoying their meals, they actually chew their food before swallowing (imagine that!). If you eat slowly you will eat less, and at the same time, you will get more enjoyment from your meal.

The French also incorporate exercise into their lifestyle more naturally than we do; instead of going to the gym, they are more likely to get exercise by walking or riding a bike.

There is another book about the French approach to food that is also supposed to be very good. It's called, "Joie de Vivre." It was written by a French restrauteur living in America (sorry, can't recall the author's name at the moment!).
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:06 am
Thanks, StrayCat! That's all very interesting.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:13 am
HickoryStick wrote:
The library near me doesn't have it.


HickoryStick, ask your library to get it for you on an interlibrary loan - or simply ask them to order it. The hamburgers often get their local library to buy books they're interested in.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:20 am
Stray Cat wrote:
There is another book about the French approach to food that is also supposed to be very good. It's called, "Joie de Vivre." It was written by a French restrauteur living in America (sorry, can't recall the author's name at the moment!).


Here it is:

Joie de vivre
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:23 am
French Women Do Too Get Fat ... click

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What the best seller neglects to mention.

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Before we come under assault by the rest of the French Women empire (the TV show, the movie) we should take this mythology?-Americans, hopelessly schizophrenic about food; French, universally blessed with natural moderation?-with a grain of Breton sea salt.

The first problem with this picture is that it may already be out of date.

Guiliano grew up and learned her eating rituals in the '50s and '60s. Today, thanks to globalization, the French are starting to eat, and look, more like us: According to a recent article in the Times of London, the traditional French meal is eaten by only 20 percent of the population. Instead, they increasingly favor the abbreviated, on-the-go meals of Americans. The national rate of obesity is rising fast.

While only 6 percent of the population was obese in 1990, today the proportion is 11.3 percent. That is still well behind the same figure for the United States (22 percent) but on track to match our levels by 2020.

The French are not happy about it. In a parliamentary report last spring highlighting the dramatic increase in obesity, legislators proposed launching a new government agency to fight weight gain, to be funded by a tax on high-calorie or high-fat foods.

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Which brings us to the second way in which the American/French divide is more complicated than Guiliano acknowledges. The French accept a level of government paternalism that would not go over easily here. The way that French families eat, or until recently ate, is actually a product of state intervention, as Greg Critser pointed out in a 2003 piece in the New York Times.

At the beginning of the 20th century, concern over France's high infant mortality rate led to a largely state-sponsored movement called puericulture. The movement's initial focus was on getting mothers to breastfeed; clinics were set up across the country, and the government required factories to have areas for nursing. But puericulture advocates also stressed that overfeeding infants was worse than underfeeding them. For older children, they advised regular mealtimes, modest portions, no seconds, and no snacks. Children's own appetites and preferences were to be ignored. This is the tradition in which Guiliano was raised, and which she proposes to those of her readers who are parents.

It is another interesting paradox: The French ability to take pleasure in food, and to choose food based on taste rather than dietary dogma, begins with a child's lack of choice, and a degree of parental and state authoritarianism.

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The third problem is that, while they may be admirably successful at staying thin, French women are not necessarily more balanced in their attitudes about food.

While many people think of eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia as an American problem, they are, as far as can be measured (and these statistics should always be taken with some degree of skepticism), equally prevalent in France.

In the United States, somewhere between 0.5 percent and 3.7 percent of women will be anorexic in their lifetimes, while 1.1. percent to 4.2 percent will suffer from bulimia. Between 2 percent and 5 percent of Americans binge eat. Among young French women, an estimated 1 percent to 3 percent are anorexic; 5 percent are bulimic; and 11 percent have compulsive eating behaviors.

Certainly, young French women today are as interested in eating disorders as their American counterparts. While Guiliano enjoys her publishing success here, a quite different book is in the spotlight in France: a memoir of bulimia called Thornytorinx. (The title is an anatomical name for the digestive tract.) The book has been favorably covered by the French press, and its author, a 25-year-old actress named Camille de Peretti, appeared last weekend on one of France's most popular talk shows.





I remembered that we'd discussed this book on another forum last year, still had a link to this.
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HickoryStick
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:26 am
Thanks ebeth, but that's still fewer fatties than in the US, and I still think highly of what the book seems to say.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:31 am
On trip to France, and everyone can experience first hand that
Kate Taylor's assumption doesn't make too much sense.
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