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Cleanliness is next to....?

 
 
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:06 am
Yikes sponges!!! I only use paper towels, that's it!
Dishes go into the dishwasher or are cleaned by hand with
hands - no sponge here either.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:07 am
Yikes!!! Cleaning dishes with hands!
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:21 am
Yikes! Cleaning dishes with my penis!
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:29 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Yikes!!! Cleaning dishes with hands!


Trust me, my hands are a lot cleaner than your sponge - plus, I rarely
clean a dish with my hand, only a few times a year when I use my
antique china.

Slappy, the way I piture you: when the bath tub is filled up with
dishes you'll get the shower head on full blast and hose it down.
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Chai
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:36 am
I'm with you CJ, Your hands can get really clean anytime.

I don't cook a lot of stuff that gets greasy or caked on, so I rinse off dishes using my hands before going in the dishwasher.

OK, I'm thinking maybe I do have a problem, I use disposible gloves when I have to cut up raw chicken, It's just so gross.

Next thing yo know, I'll be wearing one of those clean suits.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:47 am
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Yikes! Cleaning dishes with my penis!


LOL... that reminds me of the guy in Cold Comfort Farm who cleaned the dishes with a twig?

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I'm with ChaiTea... nothing wrong with sending your sponges through the dishwasher if it is hot enough, though I mostly use "restaurant quality" brushes which can "take" the heat. My dishwasher heats its own water to 161F and holds that temperature for 30 minutes or more, which is perfectly adequate as a disinfectant.

A standard Bleach ratio for restaurants is 1:10 bleach to water. You really don't need to do the 1:1 in order to kill everything and bleach, as a phosphate, is hard on the environment. Also, over-killing bacteria is a great cause of the super-bugs the medical community is now fighting and which have attacked some of our own a2k folks.


Here's a great way to clean your sink drains... pour two cups of more of boiling water through the drains... at least weekly.

I try to be very careful whenever I deal with raw meat, especially chicken or seafood. Usually, I'll prepare it over disposable material. On the occasions that I use a wooden cutting board (much better than the kind you can send through the dw), afterwards I wash it in hot-soapy water, then rub it with bleach and rinse.

Here are some interesting things that many people do not know about bleach (comes from this website http://www.info.gov.hk/dh/diseases/ap/eng/useofbleach.htm):

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Cold water should be used for dilution as hot water decomposes the active ingredient of bleach and renders it ineffective.
Bleach containing 5.25% sodium hypochlorite should be diluted as follows (demonstration short):
1:99 diluted household bleach (mixing 10ml of bleach with 1litre of water) can be used for general household cleaning.
1:49 diluted household bleach (mixing 10ml of bleach with 0.5litre of water) is used to disinfect surfaces or articles contaminated with vomitus, excreta, secretions or blood.
Make adjustments to the amount of bleach added if its concentration of sodium hypochlorite is above or below 5.25%.
Calculation: Multiplier of the amount of bleach added = 5.25 concentration of sodium hypochlorite in bleach
For example, when diluting a bleach containing only 5% sodium hypochlorite, the multiplier is 5.25 5=1.05. That means 10 x 1.05 =10.5ml of bleach should be used when preparing a bleach solution.
For accurate measurement of the amount of bleach added, a tablespoon or measuring cup can be used.
Rinse disinfected articles with water and wipe dry.
Cleaning tools should be soaked in diluted bleach for 30 minutes and then rinsed thoroughly before reuse.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:50 am
Why is the one you can run though the dishwasher bad? I'd figure the wood one that soaks up gook is worse.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:53 am
There you go Chai! Have everything Ebola proof secured
with several air tight chambers and sterile suits before
entering your kitchen.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:58 am
Bella Dea wrote:
Why is the one you can run though the dishwasher bad? I'd figure the wood one that soaks up gook is worse.


It's not bad if your dw gets over 160F, I use 'em too.

Wood is a natural drying agent and doesn't allow bacteria to thrive and grow. It also absorbs the bleach and becomes even more anti-bacterial.
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Chai
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 09:59 am
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you through my helmet, the oxygen tank was making too much noise...

Repeat?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 10:05 am
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Wood vs. Plastic Cutting Boards

Did you know that wood cutting boards are the safest to use? For some reason, bacteria have a tougher time surviving on wood boards. Most people are surprised to hear that a wood cutting board may be more resistant to bacterial buildup than plastic ones. There is some debate on this topic, however, and I can make no claim one way of the other. I can tell you about my favorite wood cutting board!

Research has shown that bacteria, such as the salmonella often found on raw chicken, will thrive and multiply if not removed from plastic boards (because germs that cause food poisoning can hide out in the knife-scarred nooks and crannies that develop on the surface of a plastic cutting board). Hand scrubbing with hot water and soap can clear microbes from the surface of new or used wooden cutting boards and new plastic ones, but knife-scared plastic boards are resistant to decontamination by hand washing.

On wood boards, whether they are new or have been used for years, the bacteria dies off within 3 minutes. Researchers theorize that the porous surface of the wood surface of the wooden boards deprives the bacteria of water, causing them to die.The Meat and Poultry Hotline recommends that consumers use plastic or glass surfaces for cutting raw meat and poultry. However, wooden cutting boards used "exclusively" for raw meat and poultry are acceptable. Use a different board for cutting other foods such as produce and bread. This will prevent bacteria from a meat or poultry from contaminating another food.


from http://whatscookingamerica.net/CuttingBoards/AllAbout.htm
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 10:14 am
Chai Tea wrote:
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you through my helmet, the oxygen tank was making too much noise...

Repeat?


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Lady J
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 11:10 am
Since Mr. J and our family have recently moved into the house we are in, I have been much more of a cleaning nut than I ever was before. I think it has to do with the fact that his ex wife lived here before us and I really want to rid the place of anything that reminds me of what a scum housekeeper she was.

We didn't even move in here for ten days after we got the keys. We spent hours scrubbing and bleaching in the kitchen and bathrooms mostly. Cabinets to floors and anything else that got in the way. It was then that I discovered she had "painted" the grout on all of the kitchen countertops to make it look white. Do people really do that?? The actual grout, instead of being natural white, was actually a muddy brown color and I was grossed out thinking of all the crappy germs that could be harboring. ::shudder:: We also had all the carpets cleaned professionally even though we will be replacing them soon. They were just too gross to think of living on.

Yesterday I undertook the huge task of cleaning ALL of the tile floors (and there are a LOT of them). Again, the brown muddy colored grout turned to a lovely shade of beige that is actually quite liveable. I still want all the tile replaced with hardwood eventually but in the interim, at least I know they will be clean.

Dishes? I always rinse them before placing them in the dishwasher and usually use the "braille" method. Meaning my hands can feel better what might be stuck on a plate or a fork than a brush or a sponge can. I use a dishrag for countertops only, as someone mentioned before, those are put into the whites/bleach wash of laundry. I have like 20 of those and most weeks I end up with 4 or 5 of them in the wash.

I only have and use a glass cutting board for meat and poultry and another one for fruits and veggies and they immediately go into the dishwasher after being rinsed after use.

I guess I am more anal about tidiness and cleanliness than I ever was before. But I am also not having to work outside the home anymore, so I get the opportunity to focus my time on the house.

Todays project is removing godawful wallpaper in our son's bathroom. Confused
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 12:56 pm
You think my home is cluttered? My cats think it's kind of interesting. Anyway, you can eat off the floors. The spaghetti sauce is a mite stale, but. . . .
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 01:45 pm
some recommendations from a plumber friend of ours :
- go easy on the bleach ! it'll corrode iron and plastic drain pipes and is not particularly good for the sewage treatment plants. if you use bleach, make sure you rinse with a lot of water - starting with hot and going to cold - to dilute it.
- the old "baking soda and vinegar" method of cleaning is much more environmentally friendly, and it works well - also reduces smell. you know the method : pour several spoonfulls of baking soda into the drain - don't forget the basement drain ! - , let sit for a couple minutes, pour in about a 1/2 pint of vinegar and let sit for a few minutes, add some more vinegar and eventually rinse through with plenty (!) of cold water.

there been a warning again from the medical community against using "antibacterial" cleaners and lotions ! they usually just kill the weak bacteria but turn the "nasty" ones into superbugs.
our local hospital just ran a feature on our local TV channel to demonstrate proper handwashing (it was mainly directed towards members of the hospital staff !!! ) , tepid water, soap and sing "happy birthday" three times while scrubbing your hands. some young nurses asked what "tepid" water is ??? hbg
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 06:39 pm
Here's a question, how long does it take to get rid of someone else's cooties? I moved into my place two years ago and, despite numerous cleanings, I only just used the wooden cutting board about a week ago. It's kinda like I feel my cooties are on everything now so it's safe. Not that the previous owner wasn't clean becasue she had every known cleaning agent known to man under the sink, it was just that feeling some of her germs were still lingereing.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 06:42 pm
They die as soon as you stop believing in them.


Unless someone, soewhere, is clapping their hands and saying: "I BEIEVE in .........'s cooties."


But you will nver know if this has happened or not, unless the cooties git ya...
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 06:44 pm
Crikey, that's most dire indeed.

I'm off to go gargle.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 06:46 pm
Who used the gargle glass last?



"Dire". Haven't seem that word in a while.......mmmmmmmmm.....like it.
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2005 06:52 pm
Jack Daniels.

Dire... feel free to use it, my gift to you.
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