WHO WAS THE FATHER OF JESUS?

The RUMOR, (I repeat, the RUMOR) is repeated in medieval Jewish writings where Jesus is referred to as “Yeshu ben Pantera.” Would you like to hear some more rumors about the man Jesus, which rumors are supported by Jewish writings, which seldom if ever, support the Christian New Testament, which states that Jesus is the son of Joseph the son of Alexander Helios aka Heli, who was apparently executed 13 B.C., in the world where many Davidian aspirants, as the “young lions of Judah”, were eliminated by the cruel and tyrannical King Herod the Great., Etc.

Historical records also reveal that the young Davidian prince Heli, [Alexander Helios III] the son, of Mattathias ben Levi, was chosen by Yehoshua/Jesus III, the high priest in Jerusalem, as the candidate to marry his daughter Hanna/Anna, who became the mother of Mary. Jehoshua III, the High Priest until 23 BC, is supposed to have died three years before the birth of his grand-daughter ‘Mary.’ If it was his death that ended his period as high priest in Jerusalem in the year of 23 BC, this would mean that Mary was born in 20 BC.

Therefore, Mary would have been 7 years old when her father Heli was murdered in 13 BC, and 14 years old when she gave birth to Jesus, who was born in 6 BC, two years before the death of Herod the Great in 4 BC, making Mary about 50 years old when Jesus, the first of her three biological sons, was crucified on Wednesday the 14th day of Nisan in 30 AD.

It is also reported that when her father 'Helios' was murdered in 13 B.C., the seven years old Mary was taken from her mother and moved north to the town of Nazareth in Galilee, where she lived under the protection of the Zealots, whose aim it was to free Israel from the yoke of Roman rule.

When the messenger of God told the young 13-14-years-old Mary, while in Nazareth, that she was to become pregnant and bear a son who God would make king as his ancestor King David was and that her aunty Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant, she packed her bag and with her Zealot chaperon travelled down south to the land of Benjamin, to the house of her aged aunty where many family members and friends had gathered to rejoice with Elizabeth.

LUKE 1; 41; When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby moved within her. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and said in a loud voice, “You are the most blessed of all women, and blessed is the child you will bear! Why should this great thing happen to me, that my Lord's [FUTURE KINGS] mother comes to visit me? For as soon as I heard your greeting, the baby within me jumped with gladness. How happy you are to believe that the Lord's message to you will come true!”

How did Elizabeth know what the messenger of God had said to Mary while she was still up north in Nazareth, and was young Joseph the son of HELI, there with the visitors in the house waiting to do what had to be done. Was Elizabeth among the conspirators to put a descendant of king David on the throne and free themselves from the yoke of Rome rule?

Three months later, the unmarried pregnant Mary returned to Nazareth where she was accepted by Joseph ben Jacob a descendant of the cursed genetic line of Jehoiachin, to be his wife, this would have been a marriage of convenience as Herod’s advisors would never see a descendant of Jehoiachin as a threat to Herod’ s throne.

But because Joseph the son of Alexander Helios and any male offspring of his, would have been seen as a threat to the throne of Herod the Great as was his father, the biological father of Jesus had to remain hidden, and for the safety of the child, the pregnant Mary, was married off to Joseph the son of Jacob, a descendant of the cursed genetic line of King Jehoiachin.

Herod’s chief advisers, would not have seen Jesus, who they believed was the son of Joseph ben Jacob as a threat to the throne of Herod, because Mary, unbeknown to the Jewish authorities was already pregnant to her half-brother “Joseph the son of Alexander Helios,” and was taken to wife by Joseph the son of Jacob from the tribe of Judah.

This Joseph ben Jacob, who married the already pregnant Mary and who was only the foster-father of Jesus, was a descendant of Solomon through the cursed line of Jehoiachin, of whom we read in Jeremiah 22: 30; “This man is condemned to lose his children, to be a man who will never succeed.

He will have no descendants who will rule in Judah as David’s successor. I, the Lord, have spoken.” This rules out the hope of any son of Joseph ben Jacob ever sitting on the throne of David, whereas Jesus the son of Joseph ben Heli=Alexander Helios was a legitimate successor to that throne.

As you've shut down another thread I've had to respond here.

Your condescending, patronising, dismissive attitude is bullying, far more so than the occasional swear word.

Clearly you are upset by this, or you wouldn't have started a thread on it, and you should let others speak for themselves.

Swearing is honest, mealy mouthed snake oil salesmen like yourself don't swear because you're cold and calculating and don't allow your emotions to come into this.

This is just another example of you trying to control, not only the narrative, but the way we communicate.

And as far as intelligence goes, I've started a thread on this, and people who swear tend to be smarter with a wider vocabulary than condescending fascists like yourself.



And your patronising verbosity is indicative of a lack of reasoning.

https://able2know.org/topic/337019-1

That's all the Bible is, rumour.

You just prefer your rumours to others.

The Talmud states, "Whoever brings up an orphan in his home is regarded...as though the child had been born to him." (Sanhedrin 19b).” In other words, the adopted child is to be treated as a child born to the father of that house, which means, that Heli and his descendants, who were born from the genetic line of Nathan ‘the prophet,’ who was the adopted son of King David, were legitimate heirs to King David, although originally, not to the throne of Israel, as the prophesied Messiah had to come through the genetic line of Solomon.
Heli and his descendants only became heirs to the throne of David, through Nathan the adopted son of King David, when Naria, a descendant of Nathan, married Tamar, a female descendant of King Solomon, who bore to Naria a son by the name “Salathiel.” After the death of Naria, Tamar was taken to wife by King Jehoiachin, whose only biological son with Tamar, was Zedekiah who died prematurely in Childhood.
According to Torah law, Nathan the adopted son of King David, and Nathan’s descendants, were legitimate heirs of King David, but not in the ancestral line of the promised Messiah, who was to be born of the seed of Solomon, until Naria the descendant of Nathan coupled with Tamar the descendant of Solomon, to produce Salathiel the ancestor of Jesus, who has been made High Priest (From the tribe of Levi=Nathan) and King (From the tribe of Judah=Solomon) in the order of Melchizedek.
David Hughes the noted Genealogist of the Ancient World Lineages, states that King Jeconiah’s only son, with Queen Tamar, ‘Prince Zedekiah,’ died prematurely in childhood, and in 586 BCE King Zedekiah, the last king of Israel, whose original name Mattaniah, was the son of Josiah and the uncle of Jehoiachin. King Zedekiah/Mattaniah, was taken prisoner and his sons were executed in front of him, after which, his eyes were gouged out, and there in Babylon, he remained blinded in exile for the rest of his life and it appeared that the entire royal lineage of King David through God’s chosen son, Solomon, had been exterminated.
With all the known direct lineages of male heirs to the lineage of King Solomon the son of King David and Bathsheba now extinct, Queen Tamar II became the dynastic heiress preserving not only the Lineage of King Solomon, but also became the inter-dynastic link, or the vital crossover heiress merging the non-royal Nathan lineage with the royal lineages of King Solomon. With the addition of Tamar representing the mainline descendants of King David, we now can understand the linkage between the two prime royal and non-royal lineages to the ancestry of the Jewish Messiah Yehoshua ben Yosef (Jesus son of Joseph the son of Alexander Helios a descendant of Nathan).
Jesus carried in his genes the potent fusion of Davidian and Zadokian bloodlines. He carried the potent bloodline of the royal mantle as a Priest-King of Israel and the messianic mantle as the Maschiach Yisra’el (Messiah of Israel) of the House of David.

That's your response to everything, screed.

It may mean something to you, but the ideas of a pre industrial society aren't proof of anything.

You complain about 'foul' language and even start a thread in avain attempt to get the last word on Tsar.

Jokes fly over your head, so much stuff you just don't pick up on.

It's like you were put in a box in the 1930s and only just let out, that's how egregious your knowledge of popular culture is.

Your thread attacking Tsar shows a literalist mindset unable to recognise when things are implied.

That would be one thing, but you assume others are similarly impaired, which is why you attack their comprehension when your own woolly rambling verbosity, along with your inability to pick up references, is the culprit.

You're supposed to be writing a book, I suggest you try finishing it.

And if you want anyone else to read it employ a good editor.

And what does your ramblings here, have to do with the thread, "Who is the Father of Jesus"? You definitely do need a break from all this old mate, it's getting too much for you.

Hanna/Anna, the third daughter of the High Priest, ‘Yehoshua/Jesus III,’, was betrothed to Alexander Helios III (Heli) a young Macedonian Jew, of the tribe of Judah through Nathan the Levite, who was the biological son of Bathsheba and her husband Uriah the Hittite, and Nathan was to become the stepson of King David.
Uriah’s sons, became members of the tribe of Levi by his marriage to Bathsheba the daughter of Ammiel, the son of Oded-Edom, who was a descendant of Moses from the house of Levi, by his second wife Jephunneh, an Ethiopian woman, [See Numbers 12: 1; KJV] who was the widow of a man from the tribe of Judah, and the mother of Caleb, who, at the age of forty, became the adopted son of Moses from the tribe of Levi, and Jephunneh was the daughter of Hobab the Kenite, one of the two fathers-in-law to Moses, [See Judges 4: 11.]
Hobab the Kenite, who was the father of Moses’ second wife ‘Jephunneh,’ had married one of the seven daughters of Jethro, who was a descendant of Abraham through his second wife Keturah, making him not only the father-in-law to Moses but also his brother-in-law, as the first wife of Moses, ‘Zipporah’ who he sent away, (Divorced) was also a daughter of Jethro.
Orthodox Jews, who believe that matrilineality and matriarchy within Judaism are related to the metaphysical concept of the Jewish soul, maintain that matrilineal descent is an oral law from at least the time of the covenant at Sinai.
Because Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite was a Jewish descendant of Moses the Levite, Uriah’s three sons, Shimea, Shobab, and Nathan, were accepted as Jews.
Alexander Helios=Heli, the biological grand-father of Jesus, according to the genealogy of Jesus as recorded in Luke 3: 23; was a descendant of Nathan, and scripture reveals that Nathan was not a biological son of King David. Zechariah 12: 11-12; In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart, etc.