Why India is ssooooo hot?

spidergal wrote:

Substantiating this a bit, could those women help in uplifting the 70% Indian population that lives below poverty line?

thats not our doing.

takes time to clear up the mess in which the english left us in.
the socialistic un-result oriented gandhi-nehru administration that sent send things spiralling downwards, didnt help either.

spidergal wrote:

I say Kiran Mazumdar Shaw is one woman which India and Indians must be proud of.
She is the richest woman in India of course but you know what, her company has, besides,providing jobs to millions, skyrocketed india's position to NO.10 in the field of Biotechnology.

that i fully agree with.
though i am sure you meant thousands when you said millions.

fact remains she is exemplary.

there are many other indian women, who made a difference too - and i dont mean sports stars and entertainment industry types - did you khow that the first woman to be invited to Harvard as a visiting scientist is an Indian??
indra nyoii and padmashree warrior are also kick ass - but help foreign companies and not indian. but there are many other indian women in academic and industrial fields of excellence too.

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the socialistic un-result oriented gandhi-nehru administration that sent send things spiralling downwards, didnt help either.

brahmin, can you explain that in a more comprehensive way? Why do you feel so?

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Does that mean America shouldn't be proud of Elizabeth Taylor or Madonna or sharapova just b'coz they are not businesswomen and have not created any employment in US?

Dear Vinsan,
Why shouldn't be America be proud of these ladies?
But I thought Mallika Sherawat hasn't done anything for India (atleast me as an Indian) to feel proud of her Cool

And i have great respect for the women in the lower half of your List?

Anyway, i wish someday i would be on your list too?

Its great to have Indians here.
SG Smile

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spidergal wrote:

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the socialistic un-result oriented gandhi-nehru administration that sent send things spiralling downwards, didnt help either.

brahmin, can you explain that in a more comprehensive way? Why do you feel so?

sure.

- soviet style comapanies.
- nehruvian lisence raj.
- inexplicably lousy and archaic distribution problem.
- planting the entire family tree in various important posts in the govt.
- marxist interpretation of indian history shoved down everyone's throat.
- state owned r&d institutes that don't try to sell products it makes - hence cant sustain itself.
- using ias cadres for the same reason poms did - to prevent changes.
- not honouring performance (eg- you dont lose your govt. job even if you are a dud)
- pay scales in key positions abysmal. if police had better pay we would have lost lesser b way of bribery and corruption.
- limited salary hikes in govt offices despite being a top manager. power is the main currency - like in those crappy commie countries. result = drop in output.
- honouring connections instead of enterprise (eg"- onida and hero selling stuff in colab with jvc and honda instead of doing their own thing like biocon and i-flex)
- breeding rampant corruption due to lack of vigilance and super sluggish judiciary.
- not bringing up proud future generations of indians - thanks to demonising the netaji's and tilaks and shoving gandhi's halfwitted ideals (eg - indian soldiers can go and die fighting to save english lives from germans in ww1 and 2 - but cant fight for their own country. a total jackass) and nehru's (showboy from harrow. traitor and hypocrite. pipped sardar patel and betrayed netaji) copycat marxism everywhere.
- allowing missionaries to screw up the fabric of india and do their ****.

in a nut shell - leaving india in a mess.

thank god that the pv narshima rao (india's bestest p.m.) and manmohon singh combine came together in the nick of time.

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Awww…that introduces me to a whole new perspective on Nehrus and Gandhis.
In school, they teach us all the good things about Nehru….Great person, Great reforms etc…. we are sometimes asked to write essays on his achievements. I don't know if I agree to your views completely, but tell me if you have lived through that era?
To have such insights, you must have.

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spidergal wrote:

Awwwthat introduces me to a whole new perspective on Nehrus and Gandhis.
In school, they teach us all the good things about Nehru.Great person, Great reforms etc. we are sometimes asked to write essays on his achievements. I don't know if I agree to your views completely, but tell me if you have lived through that era?
To have such insights, you must have.

hahaha...in 20 years time, students will be asked to write essays about how we could have done without those 2 !!

nehru has 2 positive legacies -

1) a kick ass foreign policy. we havent a single enemy - we are prolly the only major country which had good trade as well as diplomatic relation with both russia and usa right through the cold war. and we have excellent diplomatic relations with most pairs of fighting groups - china and japan, iraq and iran, israel and plo, usa and iran, north and south korea, australia and indonesia - you name it. our foreign ministry knows how to maintain good relation with the pope and the devil side by side. its not solely cos of nehru though. the IFS officers are selected and handpicked - and hence top diplomats. thats another huge reason.

2) laid the foundation of most of india's education system and thus made i.t. revolution etc possible. (on the flip side, he introduced marxist negetivist history in indian carriculum and laid the foundation for generations of defeatist, un-proud, "please-sorry-thank you" type indians.)

aside of that, he should have been in some other trade.

if i could make the dream team of india's first cabinet - i'd have had sardar patel for p.m., nehru for foreign and/or external affairs ministry, netaji for home and/or defence and tilak for the other one (wrt netaji).

hell if i could have it my way, i would have ensured gandhi stayed back in south africa and with law instead of trying his imbecile tactics on indians.

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spidergal wrote:

... Great reforms

great reforms eh ??

you are a woman right??

then learn about ram mohan roy - the father of modern india.

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ram mohan roy.....oh boy, i was teaching about him to my little bro yesterday. it was a history chapter....ram mohan roy and his brahmo samaj....yeahhhh....he abolished sati

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yes... and a lot (LOT) more than just that.

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.....and have you heard of that Indian who coordinated NASA's recent space mission...er..i forget the name. however, all we heard was NASA NASA NASA . why is it that we indians are always slighted?

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Hi sorry, I finished watching Kabhi Kushi Kabi Gham (K3G) and all I can say is that it has fueled my love for Bollywood movies. Anyone have any interesting commentary re that movie?

How old is it by the way?

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It was a highly anticipated commercial film released in Jan 2002, I remember Mr. Bachchan telling a private channel that when Karan Johar (Director - Producer) of the film approached him for the role, before even narrating the story he (karan) told him that he want to finish the film in 8 months of a continual schedule within a budget of blahblah millions and anticipate it to earn 200% profit within 2 months of the release by releasing 300 prints in India & 150 prints abroad....

So the film was a pure intention of earning a commercial success by collage work of everything an average movie bug Indian desires viz (over exaggerated) FAMILY VALUES, SEPARATION & MEETING, SONGS DANCE, FILLER COMEDY , INDIAN TRADITIONS AND HIGH PRODUCTION VALUES (SURAJ BADAJATYA STYLE)...

Talking about the content in the film (in the view of a film critic) it was an average film absolutely void of script.

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I was reading some commentary about it on the net - I must say, vinsan you and those writers have some opposing views. They said it was one of the biggest hits starring some of the biggest names of Bollywood.

I do concede that there was some exageration re the family values...from a outsider's point of view: but then again, I'm not Indian and I don't understand other cultures.

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pragmatic wrote:

I was reading some commentary about it on the net - I must say, vinsan you and those writers have some opposing views. They said it was one of the biggest hits starring some of the biggest names of Bollywood.

I do concede that there was some exageration re the family values...from a outsider's point of view: but then again, I'm not Indian and I don't understand other cultures.

Prag, i appreciate your interest in Bollywood, owing to the fact you are Chinese. OK tell me exactly how many playhouses in China are running Indian movies? i am curious to know.

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spidergal wrote:

Prag, i appreciate your interest in Bollywood, owing to the fact you are Chinese. OK tell me exactly how many playhouses in China are running Indian movies? i am curious to know.

I don't know. I'm Chinese living in Australia now - I watched many Bollywood movies on one of the multicutural TV stations we have here. That is how I got to enjoy them.

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LOL....... Very Happy

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glad you find that funny...

Razz

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You are there....I see.
Well, That was funny.yes
And you are a Rani fan?????
Well, she's single, i guess!!!!

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pragmatic wrote:

I was reading some commentary about it on the net - I must say, vinsan you and those writers have some opposing views. They said it was one of the biggest hits starring some of the biggest names of Bollywood.

I do concede that there was some exageration re the family values...from a outsider's point of view: but then again, I'm not Indian and I don't understand other cultures.

Ooops I forgot to tell ya in my previous post, I enjoyed the film too.... Its just that the critic in me ranks this film far behind the few other hindi films...

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pragmatic wrote:

spidergal wrote:
Prag, i appreciate your interest in Bollywood, owing to the fact you are Chinese. OK tell me exactly how many playhouses in China are running Indian movies? i am curious to know.

I don't know. I'm Chinese living in Australia now - I watched many Bollywood movies on one of the multicutural TV stations we have here. That is how I got to enjoy them.

My friend just visited China ... she said Hindi (basically devnagari and Sanskrit) can be found more in Budhdha Stupas and Pagodas there than in any theaters (if) playing hindi film.

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