The resurrection judgement

@kjw47,

The wages sin pays is death. Thus at ones death all past sin wages are paid in full. Romans 6:7 teaches--One is aquitted of all sin at death.
Thus during the resurrection of life or judgement, one will not be judged on past sins. All will get the opportunity to learn and apply Gods will for the 1000 year reign of Christ with no satan influences. Then satan is loosed for a little while-Why? because the resurrected ones need to be tested, those who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life, those who do not=Rev 20:8-called God from Magog ( these sins they will commit is what they will be judged on)= many as the sands of the sea will follow satan and get thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed with him.

Think about it. Why would God resurrect the dead just to judge them to death? He wouldn't waste his time. All will get a chance to gain everlasting life on a
paradise earth in Gods kingdom.
Just imagine dead loved ones resurrected and given a chance.

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@kjw47,

All of this **** was written by men. People. A long time ago.

Get with the program.

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YHWH is a complete sociopath. He demands unconditional love from his creation, is insecure and tests his creation, brutally punishes his creation for not living up to his demands and expects his creation to accept this behavior as righteous and good. Seriously?

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@InfraBlue,

You are misjudging God. He has to make decisions that are best for all creation for all time. You have no clue what that entails. God hates sin because sin = worship to satan.
God has a resurrection planned, this death is temporary, and at death ones wages of sin are paid in full. During the resurrection in Gods kingdom, no satan influences for 1000 years, all get the opportunity to learn and apply Gods will. Then satan gets loosed for a little while and many still follow him to their destruction. Those living now to do Jesus' Fathers will, will be brought through the coming tribulation and Armageddon and reunited with lost loved ones. Is that not very loving of God to do that? Plus his kingdom is a cure all. Its worth every effort to learn and apply his will now to get into his kingdom. It( eternal life) has more value than all the wealth combined on this earth.

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@kjw47,

I'm misjudging God because his decisions are completely contrary to what is righteous and good? So what is it to God if one wants to worship Satan by the very free will granted them by God. It's contradictory to grant one free will but expect it to be used contrary to one's free will. Why plan a resurrection with hoops to jump through in the first place? A loving god would merely grant eternal life unconditionally to those who desire such a thing.

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@InfraBlue,

Deuteronomy 32:4--All of Gods ways are justice.) Most do not like justice upon themselves but only for the rest. God isnt partial-justice for all.
God wants one, out of love for him, for everything he did for them, to use their free will to trust in him enough to know what he says is best for his creation. He wants us to look upon him as a loving Father. Its for our benefit if we do that. By Gods will all were handed life for free. He doesnt ask much of us. He deserves our love and respect.

Mans bad choice in Eden is what caused this system of things. Its not what God wants or wanted. Gods kingdom will cure it all.

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@kjw47,

kjw47 wrote:

Deuteronomy 32:4--All of Gods ways are justice.)

I'm sure Trump says that about himself as well.

kjw47 wrote:

Most do not like justice upon themselves but only for the rest. God isnt partial-justice for all.

Except for himself.

kjw47 wrote:

God wants one, out of love for him, for everything he did for them, to use their free will to trust in him enough to know what he says is best for his creation. He wants us to look upon him as a loving Father. Its for our benefit if we do that. By Gods will all were handed life for free. He doesnt ask much of us.

God is oblivious to the fact that one, by one's own free will, by and large wants other things.

kjw47 wrote:

He deserves our love and respect.

God is a sociopath; he does not deserve love and respect.

kjw47 wrote:

Mans bad choice in Eden is what caused this system of things. Its not what God wants or wanted. Gods kingdom will cure it all.

Man's actions did nothing to cause this system of things. It is all God's whim.

That's like blaming a rape victim for causing their rape.

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@InfraBlue,

You are far from reality. Fact--God set before all-Deut 30:19--LIFE or DEATH both will be everlasting. There wont be any bad in his kingdom. That is what he wants for mankind. Those that really know him, know this system had to be after what occurred in Eden. Mortals asked for this by their rebellion. You are standing on the wrong side.

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@kjw47,

kjw47 wrote:

You are far from reality. Fact--God set before all-Deut 30:19--LIFE or DEATH both will be everlasting. There wont be any bad in his kingdom. That is what he wants for mankind. Those that really know him, know this system had to be after what occurred in Eden. Mortals asked for this by their rebellion. You are standing on the wrong side.

How am I far from reality? Your Deuteronomy quote verifies what I've said. Man's actions did nothing to cause this system of things. This system of things is all emplaced and arranged by God; mankind had absolutely no say in the matter. What occurred in Eden was mankind's exercise of its free will. God is resentful of mankind exercising its free will and is having a hissy fit. I'm on the side of logic and rational thinking against sociopathic narcissism.

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@InfraBlue,

God didnt want robots, so he gave them free will. He handed them everlasting life, never sick, not aging like now free of charge. He asked them not to do 1 thing, to use that free will out of love and respect for him and what he gave them to listen to his advice. A liar comes along who did 0 for them and Eve believed him over God, and Adam stood by her.
How angry would you be if your child who you did everything for took the side of one who did nothing for them basically telling you where to go?
So once and for all time God is letting it be proved, was he correct, mortals knowing only good, or satan correct that knowing both good and bad is best? God is always right. We must take our stand.

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@kjw47,

kjw47 wrote:

God didnt want robots, so he gave them free will. He handed them everlasting life, never sick, not aging like now free of charge. He asked them not to do 1 thing, to use that free will out of love and respect for him and what he gave them to listen to his advice. A liar comes along who did 0 for them and Eve believed him over God, and Adam stood by her.
How angry would you be if your child who you did everything for took the side of one who did nothing for them basically telling you where to go?
So once and for all time God is letting it be proved, was he correct, mortals knowing only good, or satan correct that knowing both good and bad is best? God is always right. We must take our stand.

The father/child analogy is inapt. I am not a creator god; I do not claim to have created the world. I reproduced biologically, not magically. YHWH is a sociopath who is spiteful and sadistic towards his creation. I am not spiteful and sadistic towards my children.

In regard to knowledge of what's good, one only knows what's good relative to what's bad; your question is nonsensical.

God isn't right, God is a narcissistic hypocrite.

I stand against sociopathic abuse.

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@InfraBlue,

God knows 100% bad is no good for mortal flesh. He must make decisions for what is best for all for all time. Mortals have no clue what that entails. God is always right. He created everything he has the right to say what goes. What he tells us is no good is for our benefit. Like no adultery(cheating on a mate) Is he right or wrong?

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@kjw47,

kjw47 wrote:

God knows 100% bad is no good for mortal flesh.

Bad is bad, yep. A tautology.

kjw47 wrote:

He must make decisions for what is best for all for all time.

And all have no say in the matter whatsoever; that's tyrannical.

kjw47 wrote:

Mortals have no clue what that entails.

I have a pretty good idea what that entails.

kjw47 wrote:

God is always right.

According to himself.

kjw47 wrote:

He created everything he has the right to say what goes.

His creation having its own volition has the right to say what goes, as well.

kjw47 wrote:

What he tells us is no good is for our benefit.

I'll decide for myself what is no good for my benefit, thank you very much.

kjw47 wrote:

Like no adultery(cheating on a mate) Is he right or wrong?

One thing is to expostulate that adultery is no good, another thing is saying "do not commit adultery 'cause I say so."

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@InfraBlue,

God gave all free will to choose for themselves the path they will follow. There are only 2 paths--LIFE or DEATH Deut 30:19--most choose wrong.

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@kjw47,

kjw47 wrote:

God gave all free will to choose for themselves the path they will follow.

With no choice in the paths to follow or the criteria of the paths themselves.

quote=kjw47]
There are only 2 paths--LIFE or DEATH Deut 30:19--most choose wrong.
You are assuming that death is wrong. That's what is far from reality. Deal with your own mortality.

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@InfraBlue,

Life or death--both will be everlasting.

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@kjw47,

kjw47 wrote:

Life or death--both will be everlasting.

In regard to life, this is merely an assertion.

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@InfraBlue,

Deuteronomy 30:19--I do take the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you today, that i have put life and death before you, the blessing and the malediction and you must choose life( by living now to do Jesus Fathers will-Matt 7:21) Back in OT days living by the Law) you and your offspring.-- Means ones children ride on their parents backs. Just like they did in Noahs day.

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@kjw47,

Quote:

you must choose life by living now to do Jesus Fathers will-Matt 7:21.

Correct! To choose life, we must live according to the will of our heavenly Father, who chose our brother Jesus, as our King and High priest.

John 20: 17; Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, His beloved aunty; “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”

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