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What do you think of "Da Vinci code" author Dan Brown

 
 
Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 01:07 pm
He has some new books out. I'm reading "Deception Point" right now and I've reserved "Angels and Demons."

He's most famous novel "Da Vinci Code" has been openly and repeatedly critcized by religious people. They say that the book presents false statements as facts.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 04:55 pm
As the book is a work of fiction I don't think he presents anything as fact. I think of it as the "Blair Witch" effect.

I think he writes a good thriller but I'm not a huge fan of thrillers. Since his don't seem to always have some insane madman chopping up women I tend to like them a bit better than most.

Is "Deception Point" any good?
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Ray
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 12:24 am
Why are many thrillers so freaking violent anyways
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 12:29 am
I like the occasional thriller/police procedural but I like it to be well written. I don't think much of Dan Brown's writing, relative to many other similar books I've read. I was stopped by some garishly poor writing....talk about fast track.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 02:53 am
I dont know about poor writing, I just saw the story as a carrier for all the other information about Christ.The chase/code breaking just made it more interesting.

Personnaly, I read the book and felt as tho it was closer to the real truth to the story of Jesus.
It made alot more sense to me than anything ive read of the Bible.
Ive always wondered how if Jesus was supposed to love everybody, why was he such a 'loner'.TDVC makes snese to me.

Well done to Dan Brown for writing it.
Im sad they are making a film of it.The easiest way to 'degrade' something is to turn it into a film.
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syntinen
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 04:38 am
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I just saw the story as a carrier for all the other information about Christ.
If you want information about Christ, The Da Vinci Code is the last place you should go looking for it! Dan Brown simply picked up a loopy theory from a much earlier book called The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail and used it as the basis for a rather clunkily-written thriller.

The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail was in fact completely debunked years ago; even the "Priory of Sion" guys came clean and admitted that they had invented the whole idea of the Priory and the Merovingian bloodline as a joke! Only truly dedicated nutters still take it seriously and ignore all the evidence against it.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 04:48 am
I try not to.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 08:18 am
Syntinen-I challenge you to proove to me the contents of the Bible is real.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 09:19 am
Gad! You people. Dan Brown is a clever craftsman, a writer of fiction. The daVinci Code is a hoot and Brown, no doubt, is cackling all the way to the bank. It has nothing whatever to do with contradicting or not contradicting the Bible. I seriously doubt that Brown himself believes in even one-tenth of the so-called revelations he puts into that book. Some of them are so patently absurd, they're undoubtedly intended as jokes (e.g. suggesting Walt Disney's being a Mason has something to do with the way The Little Mermaid can be seen as some kind of arcane and esoteric symbol. That's a joke folks! Don't you get it?) Everyone is so damned literal-minded they can't see when they've been had.

What do I think of Dan Brown? What I said above. He's a quite competent craftsman in his genre of writing. I enjoyed daVinci and I enjoyed Angels and Demons even more. More substance to it and it's better plotted.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 09:31 am
Why is it an absurd joke??
Ok Im not saying TDVC is the truth, but I dont think the Bible is either.

Why cant Walt Disney have been a mason?
I remember the book saying The little mermaid had red hair to represent Mary Magdelenes hair.
In the UK there is (for some stupid inexplicable reason)a hatred of red heads, like they are sub-human.Maybe it goes back thousands of years,they are degrading redheads just to degrade Mary MAgdelene( a member of royalty in TDVC), in the same way she is made into a prostitute in the Bible to degrade her and lower her status in the scheme of things.
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 09:58 am
Whoa there!

We seem to have gotten Way off track...

The question was What do you think of the DaVinci Codes author, Dan Brown? - not - What do you think of the DaVinci Code, written by Dan Brown.

Laughing all the way to the bank or not, Dan Brown is simply not a very talented writer. He is on the same par as John Gresham (sp) who although has made kajillions of dollars, really is not among the best, as far a talent.

There are many excellent authors out there, Donna Tartt, Wally Lamb, for example (I know there're so many more) who live for their art.

There are authors that are fun to read, like David Sedaris and Cintra Wilson, who don't make pretense of being William Shakespeare - They just write entertaining books.

Dan Brown is simply in the league of Nevada Barr, Sue Grafton, etc.
Popular to the public, something to read on the beach or at the airport.
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rhythm synergy
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 11:02 am
The problem why TDVC has become so controversial is that a lot of people think that the 'fact' stated in this book is true, when it's not really. If you dont' believe me, google TDVC and books/articles that refute the supposedly facts on the book.

But I really think that Dan Brown (as some1 has said earlier) doesn't really believe most of the things in his books as facts. But the crux is that a lot of ppl believe it as true.

(btw, Deception point is pretty good)
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boomerang
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 11:43 am
Maybe I'll pick up Deception Point then.

I didn't think that The Di Vinci code was poorly written. Compared to most of the thriller type books it seemed very good, the plot ticked along, there were some unexpected twists, it had an interesting premise -- I guess just not being space monsters or woman butchers made it better in my opinion.

I don't know why thrillers have to be so violent. I really liked The Historian and it was not very bloody at all.
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rhythm synergy
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 12:04 pm
boomerang wrote:
I didn't think that The Di Vinci code was poorly written. Compared to most of the thriller type books it seemed very good, the plot ticked along, there were some unexpected twists, it had an interesting premise -- I guess just not being space monsters or woman butchers made it better in my opinion.


Aside from the inaccuracies, I liked it too. I love solving the puzzles on my own even before whatshisface (haven't read it for awhile) solves it. Did you get the last clue? I got that one, heheh i was so happy after.

How about "Angels and Demon," anyone read it? I've heard from 1 of my friends that it's good.
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syntinen
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 12:06 pm
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Syntinen-I challenge you to proove to me the contents of the Bible is real.


I never said the contents of the Bible were true. What I did say was that much of the whole "Holy Blood" theory is demonstrably, provably, not true.

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Why cant Walt Disney have been a mason?


He may have been - that still doesn't mean that his film of The Little Mermaid has anything to do with Mary Magdalene. Captain Bligh was a mason, but that doesn't mean that the Mutiny on the Bounty has anything to do with the Holy Grail!

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they are degrading redheads just to degrade Mary MAgdelene( a member of royalty in TDVC), in the same way she is made into a prostitute in the Bible to degrade her and lower her status in the scheme of things.


But Mary Magdalene isn't described as a prostitute in the Bible. Read it and see. The Bible doesn't say anything about her status or occupation (or her hair colour, either). The idea that she was, grew up only because the story about her is told right next to the story of the woman taken in adultery, and people read them carelessly and assumed they were the same person.
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 01:32 pm
This thread needs to be moved to the Religion/Spirituality Forum.
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Ray
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 01:34 pm
lol. There's a documentary disproving the secret society stuff in Dan Brown's books, along with all other stuffs it claimed. Anyways, maybe Dan Brown was writing it as a satire.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 01:39 pm
material girl wrote:
Why is it an absurd joke??
Ok Im not saying TDVC is the truth, but I dont think the Bible is either.

Why cant Walt Disney have been a mason?
I remember the book saying The little mermaid had red hair to represent Mary Magdelenes hair.
In the UK there is (for some stupid inexplicable reason)a hatred of red heads, like they are sub-human.Maybe it goes back thousands of years,they are degrading redheads just to degrade Mary MAgdelene( a member of royalty in TDVC), in the same way she is made into a prostitute in the Bible to degrade her and lower her status in the scheme of things.


Who said Disney wasn't a Mason? He probably was. So was J. Edgar Hoover, Ernest Borgnine, George Washington and a whole host of other famous people. Mozart. But slipping in that kind of remark about a children's movie is Brown's way of laying on the conspiracy theories thick as creamery butter. At one point he has the hero comment on the fact that a clue, written in iambic pantemeter, is significant because iambic pentameter consists of five feet of rhyme. Wll, hell, it's also the most common verse form in English. There is no necessary significance whatsoever to the fact that the clue is so composed. And people still don't get it.

Material girl, whether or not there is any possible truth to Brown's plot device is totally immaterial. One doesn't read a thriller to get believable refutation of the bible, or of anything else. It's a story made up to entertain, not a treatise meant to convince people. The religious nuts who didn't see this and opposed the book from the start did themselves more harm than good. It brought everyone's attention to a rather mediocre -- if funny -- piece of pulp fiction.
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rhythm synergy
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 02:00 pm
The reason why the 'religious nuts opposed the books" was that though this book is wel-paced (and in my opinion very well executed), a lot of ppl believed what was in TDVC was facts. As ray said, Brown must have put it in as satire
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 02:19 pm
Who yourself, Chai Tea. I agree with almost everything you say, except for one tiny detail. I love Sue Grafton's books.

rhythm -- in my opinion Angels & Demons is a better book that DVC. It's just as outrageous in its own way but it hangs together much better.
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