A QUESTION TO THOSE OF THE JEWISH FAITH?

Hebrew bible Leviticus 23: 5-6.

ה בַּחֹדֶשׁ הָרִאשׁוֹן, בְּאַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר לַחֹדֶשׁ--בֵּין הָעַרְבָּיִם: פֶּסַח, לַיהוָה. 5 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at dusk, is the LORD'S passover.

ו וּבַחֲמִשָּׁה עָשָׂר יוֹם לַחֹדֶשׁ הַזֶּה, חַג הַמַּצּוֹת לַיהוָה: שִׁבְעַת יָמִים, מַצּוֹת תֹּאכֵלוּ. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD; seven days ye shall eat unleavened bread.

The above is from the Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre. In the Hebrew” Exodus 12: 6; the English word ‘DUSK’ is taken from the Hebrew - בין הערבים beyn haarbayim, which means "between the two evenings, and which is translated in English bibles as evening or twilight, but the Hebrew ben ha-'arbayim literally means "between the two settings."

Rabbinic sources take this to mean "from noon on." According to Radak, the first "setting" occurs when the sun passes its zenith just after noon and the shadows begin to lengthen, and the second "setting" is the actual sunset. (p. 55, vol. 2, The Jewish Publication Society Torah Commentary, "Exodus") Jesus died at 3PM, midway between noon and 6PM sunset.

It must be because they didn't have you around, with your vast reservoir of wisdom and understanding.

Sometimes it's easy to forget how lucky we are having such a smartarse as you here.

The apostles were no way near as fortunate, they only had Jesus.

You mean that Jesus who preached that we should be courteous and considerate to each other?

We are talking about the same man named Jesus, aren't we Alan?

Jesus of the tribe of Judah from the Greek speaking northern land of Galilee.

This Jesus, who called the Jewish authorities, serpents and liars and sons of Satan the father of all lies, Jesus, who after seeing the stall holders and dishonest thieving money changers in the temple ground late in the afternoon, went back to Bethany, where he stayed with his friend Lazarus whenever he came down to Jerusalem, and there he made himself a rope whip and next morning returned to Jerusalem and overturned the tables of the stall holders and money changers and flogged the hell out of them as he drove them from the temple grounds like a mob of swine.

Is this is the Jesus that you are referring to Alan?

כב וּלְקַחְתֶּם אֲגֻדַּת אֵזוֹב, וּטְבַלְתֶּם בַּדָּם אֲשֶׁר-בַּסַּף, וְהִגַּעְתֶּם אֶל-הַמַּשְׁקוֹף וְאֶל-שְׁתֵּי הַמְּזוּזֹת, מִן-הַדָּם אֲשֶׁר בַּסָּף; וְאַתֶּם, לֹא תֵצְאוּ אִישׁ מִפֶּתַח-בֵּיתוֹ--עַד-בֹּקֶר. 22 And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two side-posts with the blood that is in the basin; and none of you shall go out of the door of his house until the morning.

כג וְעָבַר יְהוָה, לִנְגֹּף אֶת-מִצְרַיִם, וְרָאָה אֶת-הַדָּם עַל-הַמַּשְׁקוֹף, וְעַל שְׁתֵּי הַמְּזוּזֹת; וּפָסַח יְהוָה, עַל-הַפֶּתַח, וְלֹא יִתֵּן הַמַּשְׁחִית, לָבֹא אֶל-בָּתֵּיכֶם לִנְגֹּף. 23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when He seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side-posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

טז וּבַחֹדֶשׁ הָרִאשׁוֹן, בְּאַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר יוֹם--לַחֹדֶשׁ: פֶּסַח, לַיהוָה. 16 And in the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, is the LORD'S passover.
יז וּבַחֲמִשָּׁה עָשָׂר יוֹם לַחֹדֶשׁ הַזֶּה, חָג: שִׁבְעַת יָמִים, מַצּוֹת יֵאָכֵל. 17 And on the fifteenth day of this month shall be a feast; seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.

וַיִּסְעוּ מֵרַעְמְסֵס בַּחֹדֶשׁ הָרִאשׁוֹן, בַּחֲמִשָּׁה עָשָׂר יוֹם לַחֹדֶשׁ הָרִאשׁוֹן: מִמָּחֳרַת הַפֶּסַח, יָצְאוּ בְנֵי-יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּיָד רָמָה--לְעֵינֵי, כָּל-מִצְרָיִם. 3 And they journeyed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with a high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians,
ד וּמִצְרַיִם מְקַבְּרִים, אֵת אֲשֶׁר הִכָּה יְהוָה בָּהֶם--כָּל-בְּכוֹר; וּבֵאלֹהֵיהֶם, עָשָׂה יְהוָה שְׁפָטִים. 4 while the Egyptians were burying them that the LORD had smitten among them, even all their first-born; upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments.

Numbers 28: 16; The Passover festival in honour of the Lord, is to be held on the 14th day of the first month. On the fifteenth day a religious Festival begins which lasts seven days, during which, only unleavened bread is to be eaten. On the first day of the seven days Festival of Unleavened Bread, (The 15th day of Abib/Nisan) you are to gather for worship and no work is to be done: A most Holy Sabbath ………….On the last day (The 21st of Abib/Nisan) you must meet for worship and do no work, another most Holy Sabbath day.

While Numbers 33: 3; reveals that the people of Israel left Egypt on the day ‘AFTER’ the first Passover, Let me repeat that, it was on the ‘DAY AFTER’ the first Passover, as the sun set on the 14th Day of Nisan, they left Egypt in full view of the Egyptians who were burying their firstborn sons, who the Lord had killed in the darkness of the previous night, wherein the beginning of that night, the Israelites had eaten the Passover lambs that had been killed between the two evenings that preceded their Passover meal, which was between noon of the 13th of Nissan and sunset, the beginning of the 14th of Nisan.

And Exodus 12” 22 Reveals that the Israelites were not to leave their houses until the morning after all the firstborn male had been killed.

Knowing from the Hebrew scriptures, that the Israelites were to Kill their Pascal lambs on the 13th of Nissan, sometime between Noon and dusk, which was the beginning of the 14th day, as the Israelites day was divided into 12 hours of darkness followed by 12 hours of Daylight and finished as the sunset on the 14th day, and the fifteenth day began.

That they ate their Passover meal in the evening and beginning of the 14th day of Nisan, and they could not leave their houses until the morning after the firstborn males had been killed, and they left Egypt as the Egyptians were burying their dead in the descending darkness of the beginning of the 15th day of Nisan, which is the first day of the seven days Festival of Unleavened Bread that followed the one-day festival of Passover.

We must ask again: Why, in the days of Jesus was the one day festival of Passover, incorporated into the seven days festival of unleavened bread?

Either there are no members of the Jewish faith on this forum, or if there are, they haven’t got a clue as to why their spiritual guides decided to change God’s Holy Festival, which they were to celebrate for all time to come, or, if they do know why, then why do they not want to informs others who are not of their faith, why the Passover day was changed?

The first Christians were Israelites who followed the man Jesus from the tribe of Judah/Levi, who was against the ruling authorities of the church of God, which was founded by Moses.

Jesus held the Passover with his disciples in the evening which was the beginning of the 14th day of Nisan, the day, which the Lord God told Moses was to be celebrated as a religious Festival for all time to come.

Jesus had no pascal Lamb at their Passover celebration.

Knowing that he was chosen as the physical body in which, was reborn on earth, He, who was 365 (The Number of days in a calendar Year) when he was taken up and anointed as the heir and successor to the throne of the Most High in the creation, the only begotten son of the Most high, who, like Isaac was offered up as a sacrifice to the ONE God, by his father "The Lord of Creatures" the Most High in the creation, instead, Jesus offered his disciples the Bread and Wine, which was symbolic of the body and blood of the Holy Sacrifice.

Telling his disciples, that every time they celebrated the Passover, which was to be celebrated for all time to come, they were to partake of the bread and wine, in Memory of Him.

was sentenced to death at midnight, nailed to the cross at 9 AM, the third hour of the 12 hours of daylight of the 14th of Nisan, died at 3 PM midway between the first and second setting of the sun, and was buried as the sun was setting on the true day of Passover, Just as the Jewish authorities were sitting down to their meal of the pascal Lamb on the evening and beginning of the 15th day of Nisan, which is the first day of their seven day festival of Unleavened Bread, a most Holy Sabbath on which no work could be done.

Jesus was a descendant of Nathan, the son of Bathsheba from the tribe of Levi, who was adopted by King David of the tribe of Judah.

Jesus carried in his genes the potent fusion of Davidian and Zadokian bloodlines. He carried the potent bloodline of the royal mantle as a Priest-King of Israel and the messianic mantle as the Maschiach Yisra’el (Messiah of Israel) of the House of David.

If no one of the Jewish faith can explain why the Passover day was changed, it would be a waste of time to ask if they might be able to reveal on what day of the week was the day of preparation to their seven day Festival of Unleavened Bread in the year that Jesus was unjustly executed by the Romans?

You love making stuff up.

This thread is a loaded question, you are not interested in discussing this in good faith.

"Was it because they didn't understand their scriptures," is you telling Jewish people that you are wiser than they are, and understand their faith more than them.

Why the **** would any Jewish person want to engage with such a bigoted premise?

Maybe if you didn't have a history of anti Semitic utterances on this forum and asked an honest open question you may have had more luck.

Something like, "Can anyone explain why and when the one day festival of Passover was incorporated into the seven day Festival of Unleavened Bread?"

I don't know much about Judaism, but I do know its religous leaders love discussing the interpretation of scripture and theology in general, they just don't like discussing it with Nazis.

O, look who’s come to visit us, the biblically ignorant foul mouthed Atheist troll, Izzy the porn pusher, who says he has no time for Bible believers, which includes those of the Abrahamic faith.



You don’t know much about any religion old mate. You’re a total scriptural Ignoramus, who in your ignorance condemns all religious scripture concerning an intelligent creator and what he desires of his creation.



No, I “IS” not telling Jewish people or any people who have joined the Jewish faith that I “IS” wiser than they: I simply want to know the reason why their spiritual guides saw fit to abandon the 14th day of Nisan as the true day of the Holy Passover festival according to their scriptures.



The search for truth would be the reason why any person would want to engage in a discussion as to why the day of Passover was incorporated into the seven days Festival of Unleavened Bread.



Are you referring to a genetic descendant of Abraham, as a Nazi? One who is a devout student of rabbi Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, who has been chosen by our heavenly Father as our King and High Priest

John 19: 34-37; One of the soldiers, however, plunged his spear into Jesus' side, and at once blood and water poured out. (The one who saw this happen has spoken of it, so that you also may believe. What he said is true, and he knows that he speaks the truth.) This was done to make the scripture come true: “Not one of his bones will be broken.” And there is another scripture that says, “People will look at him whom they pierced.”

The only other scripture which refers to people looking at him who they pierced, is Zechariah 12: 9-10; At that time I will destroy every nation that tries to attack Jerusalem.

“I will fill the descendants of David and the other people of Jerusalem with the spirit of mercy and the spirit of prayer. They will look at the one whom they Pierced, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child.

This is the same time as spoken of by the prophet Isaiah 63: 1-6; “Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?”

“It is the LORD, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory.”

“Why is his clothing so red, like that of someone who tramples grapes to make wine?”

The LORD answers, “I have trampled the nations like grapes, and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I decided that the time to save my people had come; it was time to punish their enemies. I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them. I poured out their lifeblood on the ground.”

When they look at the one who will destroy every nation that tries to attack Jerusalem, they will look at the one they pierced, who was given divine glory by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, (See Acts 3: 13.) who is now incontestably divine and sits in the heavenly throne of our Father, who in Revelation 3: 21; Says; "To those who win the victory I will give the right to sit beside me on my throne, just as I have been victorious and now sit by my Father on his throne."

And again in Revelation 2: 26-28; "To those who win the victory, who continue to the end to do what I want, I will give the same authority that I received from my Father: I will give them authority over the nations, to rule them with an iron rod and to break them to pieces like clay pots. I will also give them the morning star."

Those are the required number of Jews and Gentiles, who will take the thrones that have been prepared for them and rule as Kings with Jesus for the thousand years Sabbath, and this man, who you insinuate is a Nazi, will be an obedient servant to the then King of Kings, ruling in Jerusalem.

What about you Izzy?

I know enough about religion to recognise a false prophet and a bigot.

Good, let me know when you find a false prophet, and explain, to us how you know that he has made a false prophecy and is not just quoting one of the Lord's Holy prophets.

And don't worry about looking for a Bigot mate, because we have found one in you Izzy, an ignorant atheist who is intolerant of those who differ from your idiotic beliefs.

Nighty night old mate.

Why would I want to waste my time speaking to a bigot who hates everyone outside of his own narrow bigoted ideology?

Annointed has nothing to offer, other than twisted scripture to support his own vile views.

It's a mark of the ignorant to make false claims about their critics, where have I ever claimed to be an Atheist?

More lies from the master of alternative facts and horseshit.