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Accused Russian Agent Gave to One Politician: Tulsi Gabbard

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2022 04:02 am
@hightor,
She should get the same treatment Oswald Mosely got.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2022 04:17 am
Russian TV Uses Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard to Sell Putin’s War

Fox News clips of Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard trashing Ukraine and the Biden administration were a mainstay of news coverage this week on Russian state television.

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In the hours since Russia launched its military assault on Ukraine, the news on Russian state television has been dominated by official statements and reports from war correspondents. But in the days leading up to the attack, as the state broadcaster worked to tarnish Ukraine and cast American criticism of President Vladimir Putin as hysterical, its producers borrowed heavily from another source: Fox News.

At least four times this week, Russian news reports have featured translated clips of Tucker Carlson or his guest Tulsi Gabbard, a former Democratic U.S. representative, attacking the Biden administration.

What’s more, one report broadcast on Russian television’s main channel Sunday did more than just quote Carlson: It developed and sharpened a political attack on a prominent Democratic senator that Carlson had just hinted at.

At 8 p.m. on Sunday, a primetime review of the week’s news presented by Dmitry Kiselev, a bombastic Putin favorite, featured remarks from the opening monologue of Carlson’s February 17 show, in which the American commentator trashed Ukraine’s government.

• On Sunday, Russian state TV translated this Tucker Carlson rant: "They're promoting war, not to maintain the democracy that is Ukraine. Ukraine is not a democracy. It has never been a democracy in its history and it's not now. It is a client state of the Biden administration." pic.twitter.com/36fziEks90
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) February 24, 2022

“These people are so ghoulish,” Carlson said of U.S. officials who provided military aid to Ukraine. “Of course they’re promoting war,” Carlson continued, as his comments were translated into Russian, “not to maintain the democracy that is Ukraine. Ukraine is not a democracy. It has never been a democracy in its history, and it’s not now. It’s a client state of the Biden administration.”

The Russian broadcast cut away from Carlson’s monologue at this point to show Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s appearance at the United Nations that day. But that exactly echoed the next part of the original Fox News broadcast, which also showed Blinken on screen as Carlson mocked his warning that Russia might stage a false flag attack and blame it on Ukraine as a pretext for war.

An hour later, the evening news program on Russia’s main state television channel used a longer excerpt from the same Carlson monologue and shaped its own report to amplify the Fox News host’s attack on a Democrat. In the original Fox News broadcast, Carlson had suggested that Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee who worked to arm Ukraine with Javelin anti-tank missiles, was only doing so because of donations from American defense contractors like Raytheon.

• Last week, Tucker Carlson suggested Sen. Richard Blumenthal might have pushed to arm Ukraine to aid a campaign donor, Raytheon. Then on Sunday, Russian state TV devoted a segment to Raytheon, Blumenthal and Ukraine, even quoting Carlson in translation. pic.twitter.com/yMTOxsKYuN
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) February 24, 2022

Before quoting Carlson’s comments, the Russian report noted that Blumenthal had received hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from Raytheon and referred to Blumenthal’s false claim that he had served in Vietnam. The Russian broadcast then cut to a part of Carlson’s program in which he showed viewers video of Blumenthal telling MSNBC about the need to supply Javelin missiles to Ukraine. Carlson was then shown laughing at Blumenthal. “So that guy, who lied about his own war service, is pretty excited at the thought of Ukrainians fighting and dying in the streets,” Carlson scoffed.

After cutting away from Carlson, the Russian correspondent noted that President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump had also received hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Raytheon.

On Wednesday night, just hours before Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine to begin, two excerpts from Carlson’s most recent program were featured in Russian state television’s 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. news broadcasts.

Carlson had started his show Tuesday night with a sarcastic monologue in which he told viewers: “Democrats in Washington have told you it’s your patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin. It’s not a suggestion. It’s a mandate. Anything less than hatred for Putin is treason. Many Americans have obeyed this directive. They now dutifully hate Vladimir Putin. Maybe you’re one of them. Hating Putin has become the central purpose of America’s foreign policy. It’s the main thing that we talk about. Entire cable channels are now devoted to it. Very soon, that hatred of Vladimir Putin could bring the United States into a conflict in Eastern Europe.”

Carlson’s comments were so welcome in Moscow that an excerpt from that rant with Russian subtitles was quickly produced by the Russian-language service of RT, the government-funded network formerly known as Russia Today.

• Russian state broadcaster RT just published Tucker Carlson’s rant to defend Putin with Russian subtitles pic.twitter.com/atmHt4TlmS
— Rag?p Soylu (@ragipsoylu) February 23, 2022

During the 8 p.m. news bulletin on Russian state television Wednesday, as Russians tried to make sense of what was about to happen, a dubbed version of Carlson’s monologue was offered to them as an explanation.

• On Tuesday, Tucker Carlson claimed that "Democrats in Washington have told you it's your patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin." Within hours, the Fox clip was on Russian state TV's evening news broadcast, used to suggest US opposition to Russia's attack on Ukraine is irrational. pic.twitter.com/lGzp7PZhaK
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) February 24, 2022

An hour later, Russian television’s main evening news program featured another clip of Carlson’s show from the previous night, an excerpt from his discussion of possible economic sanctions on Russia with Gabbard, who is now a frequent Fox guest and was given a prime speaking slot at the Conservative Political Action Conference this weekend.

Like Carlson, Gabbard sought to blame the U.S. and NATO for supposedly provoking Putin’s attack on Ukraine and suggested that Americans would suffer from higher energy prices if Russia was sanctioned for invading Ukraine.

• On the eve of war, Russian state TV showed a translation of Tulsi Gabbard's Fox News criticism of Biden's threat to sanction Russia for attacking Ukraine. "Sanctions don't work. This is whole problem with the Biden administration: they are so focused on how do we punish Putin." pic.twitter.com/pjXxtIrK1h
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) February 24, 2022

“These sanctions don’t work,” Gabbard told Carlson in an exchange screened for Russians. “What we do know is that they will increase suffering and hardship for the American people. And this is whole problem with the Biden administration: They are so focused on how do we punish Putin that they don’t care and are not focused on what is actually in the best interests of the American people.”

Russian officials have not been shy about pointing out that fuel prices are likely to spike in Europe and the United States if sanctions are imposed on its vast oil and gas industry. State television reports from Washington on the crisis have repeatedly included close shots of high gas prices and suggested that they could go higher.

On Thursday, after Russia launched its military assault on Ukraine, Gabbard posted the video of her Fox News comments about sanctions on Twitter and suggested, without evidence, that doing anything to press Putin to stop the invasion of Ukraine could lead to a nuclear war.

• Biden/Harris tell us we must bear the cost to defend freedom in Ukraine. But while you & your family struggle w/ higher prices, the Power Elite won’t suffer at all. And if the conflict goes nuclear they’ll be safe in bunkers while you, I, & our loved ones are left without shelter pic.twitter.com/75abm9rY35
— Tulsi Gabbard ? (@TulsiGabbard) February 24, 2022

Gabbard returned to Carlson’s show Thursday night; during her appearance, she blamed Biden for not preventing the war, which she said he could have done by giving in to Putin’s demand to rule out the possibility of Ukraine ever joining NATO.

• Tulsi: I do not in any way support Putin’s decision to go into Ukraine… If President Biden and NATO had done what you were just talking about in agreeing we’re going to take NATO off the table for Ukraine… this situation could’ve been prevented… pic.twitter.com/espPertdud
— Acyn (@Acyn) February 25, 2022

Update: February 27, 2022
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine intensified on Sunday, Feb. 27, the main evening news bulletin on Russia’s Channel One used three clips from Tulsi Gabbard’s recent appearances on Tucker Carlson’s show in which she blamed the United States for the Russian attack on Ukraine.

After first replaying her comments from earlier in the week that “sanctions don’t work,” the broadcast then presented a translated quote of Gabbard telling Carlson, on Feb. 11, that “President Biden could end this crisis, and prevent a war with Russia by doing something very simple: guaranteeing that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO, because if Ukraine became a member of NATO, that would put U.S. and NATO troops directly on the doorstep of Russia, which — as Putin has laid out — would undermine their national security.” The Russian report notably cut away from the original interview just before Gabbard added: “The reality is that it is highly, highly unlikely that Ukraine will eve become a member of NATO anyway.”

A Russian correspondent in Washington then described and quoted from what Gabbard told Carlson later in the same Feb. 11 interview, that, “the military industrial complex is the one that benefits from this. They clearly control the Biden administration. Warmongers on both sides in Washington who’ve been drumming up these tensions, if they get Russia to invade Ukraine, then, again, it locks in this new Cold War.”

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seac
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2022 09:27 pm
So, Gabbard is the traitorous American who sided with Putin? Believe what you want. The war has already started. The Russians are good at taking video clips of discussions and posting them in their favor. Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been deterred if Zelensky made some concessions to Putin's demands. As freedom loving Americans, we rejoice at any country fighting for democracy. But democracy means different things to other cultures. It is not the same in Muslim countries, there will still be inequalities among the people. Ukraine is still a democracy in progress it seems and now it is being squashed. We now watch the war on tv screens and cheer on a losing battle.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2022 02:12 am
@seac,
You are blaming Zelensky for the invasion of Ukraine.

Clearly believing whatever you want is something you do a lot of.

You Americans love to bang on about freedom, but don't want to share it with others.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2022 05:04 am
@izzythepush,
The appeasers of the 1930s also claimed to be anti war, and we all know how that worked out.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:17 am
@seac,
seac wrote:

Putin's invasion of Ukraine could have been deterred if Zelensky made some concessions to Putin's demands.

You believe independent countries should roll over to dictator's demands in order to keep the peace. Look up the start of WW2 to see how that works.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:31 am
@seac,
The single concession Russia is looking for is the elimination of Ukraine as a nation.

By the way, the single concession I want from you is your home and all your possessions. Refusing me is asking for an ass kicking. I expect to take possession tomorrow. In the interest of world peace and security you'd better start packing. Don't blame me, I'm only channeling my inner Putin, and you are breaking world peace, you little nazi, you.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2022 12:06 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

By the way, the single concession I want from you is your home and all your possessions.

Wouldn't you settle for half, seeing it didn't cost a cent? You can always go back for more.
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seac
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2022 11:46 pm
So, the name calling begins huh? Concessions don't mean forfeiting everything. There might have been a chance that Zelensky could have negotiated something to avert the war. Now that war has started, Russia can keep the lands of Ukraine it now occupies. What's there to negotiate now?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 17 Mar, 2022 02:17 am
@seac,
If you advocate appeasement don't get upset when people call you an appeased. You could at least have the courage to stand my your words, instead you play the victim.

The real victims here are the Ukrainians you're just upset about being called out for what you are.
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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 17 Mar, 2022 11:35 am
@seac,
What was there to negotiate before? Ukraine was asking nothing from Russia, Russia was demanding control over Ukraine. The success of Russia taking Crimea in 2014 without much of a fight led directly to this.
seac wrote:
Now that war has started, Russia can keep the lands of Ukraine it now occupies.
Russia was going to keep what land it wanted either way. Either by taking it by force or "negotiation", the result was going to be the same.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 08:22 am
@engineer,
If the world agreed that Ukraine would not join NATO —and maybe if NATO would stop expanding to Russian borders, this conflict could be over.

It’s a theory.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 08:38 am
@Lash,
And it's a stupid one.

Maybe Russia needs to pull away from NATO nation borders.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 08:41 am
@bobsal u1553115,
If Hitler had just been allowed to invade Poland, WW2 wouldn't have happened.

Just a theory.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 08:59 am
@izzythepush,
It is just that.

Funny how we have keep the Russian superpower protected from all those nasty little nations they once plundered and reduced.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 09:21 am
When you push some people into a corner, sometimes they respond in ways you regret.

Micro and macro, we should always ask ourselves—do I really need to corner this person? Is it worth the possible result.

Or, you can be the ugly American and keep your fingers crossed.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 09:27 am
@Lash,
Let bullies get away with it. Wrong.

"Yah know if we'd a only let Hitler alone, he'da settled down after a bit!"
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 09:34 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Putin was never backed into a corner, that's Russian propaganda.

Lash is the Kremlin's own A2K mole, she's been having a go at everyone, NATO, Biden, Germany, Zelensky, yhey're all responsible, the only one innocent in all this is Putin.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 09:46 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Well, now that you mention it, if Germany hadn’t been quite as humiliated by nearby countries, sort of like Putin has been, we may have been spared some horrors—yet, here we go down the worn road.

Reminder:

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/how-did-hitler-happen

How were Hitler and the Nazis possible? How did such odious characters take and hold power in a country that was a world pacesetter in literature, art, architecture, and science, a nation that had a democratic government and a free press in the 1920s?
Hitler rose to power through the Nazi Party, an organization he forged after returning as a wounded veteran from the annihilating trench warfare of World War I. He and other patriotic Germans were outraged and humiliated by the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles, which the Allies compelled the new German government, the Weimar Republic, to accept along with an obligation to pay $33 billion in war reparations. Germany also had to give up its prized overseas colonies and surrender valued parcels of home territory to France and Poland. The German army was radically downsized and the nation forbidden to have submarines or an air force. “We shall squeeze the German lemon until the pips squeak!” explained one British official.
Paying the crushing reparations destabilized the economy, producing ruinous, runaway inflation. By September 1923, four billion German marks had the equal value of one American dollar. Consumers needed a wheelbarrow to carry enough paper money to buy a loaf of bread.
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Thinking of daughters and wives selling their bodies on the streets of Iran, the big, threatening military club encroaching around Russia, the deadly poverty caused by these sanctions that this country has never come close to experiencing, which one of us wouldn’t sacrifice our life to strike a blow at who did this to us.

I think glib comebacks in response to this issue diminishes the clown who makes them.

Things are not ok.

Try to see the situation from another perspective. Just for practice.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2022 09:48 am
@izzythepush,
And Hitler was never pushed into any corner either.

I'm done responding to Lash.
 

 
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