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Vowel production

 
 
Granpa
 
Mon 13 Dec, 2021 10:09 pm
The tense vowels in beet, boat, & burt are what I call tones. These change into the tense vowels bait, butt, & bot respectively when something in the vocal appatatus changes. (Each of these 6 vowels has a lax equivalent).

Can anyone tell me what that change is? What is the tongue doing differently in bait than it is in beet?
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Granpa
 
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Mon 13 Dec, 2021 10:40 pm
@Granpa,
oops. Bait, boot, & bot
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mark noble
 
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Thu 16 Dec, 2021 02:31 pm
@Granpa,
Brilliant - I'm sat here trying to identify my tongues' micro-transitions. My lips pucker moreso on 'boot' - But my tongue doesn't seem to care.
I tried pinning my tongue to the lower pallet - again, just 'boot' lip-puckerment.
I pinned it to roof - Got 'bake', 'booke', 'bok'.

Great Fun, btw
Have a grake day
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InfraBlue
 
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Thu 16 Dec, 2021 05:58 pm
@Granpa,
In General American English the vowel in "beet" is /i/ in International Phonetic Alphabet it's described as a close front unrounded vowel.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/General_American_monophthong_chart.svg/200px-General_American_monophthong_chart.svg.png

The vowel in "bait" is /eɪ/, a dipthong, a combination of two proximate vowels,
Starting with /e/, a close-mid front unrounded vowel, and ends in /i/, with the mouth drawn a bit more closed.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/General_American_diphthong_chart.svg/200px-General_American_diphthong_chart.svg.png
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Granpa
 
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Wed 22 Dec, 2021 09:35 am
https://i.imgur.com/ZUPcfsN.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZUPcfsN.png
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Granpa
 
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Tue 28 Dec, 2021 11:02 am
https://i.imgur.com/tL1EX7Z.png
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