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Breaking points and imminent disaater; A history of political extremism.

 
 
Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 08:16 am
Gay martiage was a breaking point 20 years ago. The move tp legalize same sex marriage was supposed to usher in the end of morality and the death of decency. The preedicted collapse of Western civilization never materialize.

Before that, Communism in Southeast Asia was a breaking point. If we lefr Vietnam to the communists it would lead to a domino effect and the end of global peace. The predicted collapse of global stability never took place.

Malthusians have predicted mass starvation every few decades. They have been wrong since Malthus himself made his dire predictions which never took place, and they are still at it.

There is something gratifying about predictions of imminent disaster. That is political extemists keep turning to them.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 09:58 am
@maxdancona,
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Gay martiage was a breaking point 20 years ago.

No it wasn't. I never heard it described as a single issue which would cause our society to snap. It was commonly referred to as another in a long line of events reflecting the steady deterioration of our white Christian culture, not a "breaking point".

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Before that, Communism in Southeast Asia was a breaking point.

No; that's not what the "domino effect" means. Hastening a chain reaction is not the same as a single "breaking point".

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Malthusians have predicted mass starvation every few decades.

Mass starvation due to overpopulation doesn't illustrate a "breaking point" as it is not a single event which happens like the proverbial straw breaking the back of a camel.

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There is something gratifying about predictions of imminent disaster.

No, predictions, by their very nature, have nothing to do with gratification, which only happens if the predictions turn out to have been true.

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That is political extemists keep turning to them.

Incorrect. maxdancona's got it backwards. The belief that continuing particular practices and behaviors may lead to disastrous consequences causes people to seek political solutions to avert what might become a serious problem. Raising such an alarm is not practiced exclusively by "extremists", it's simply how we nudge reform and interact with history.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 10:53 am
Its not just one thing... It is everything.

Todays people on the ledt wing are prediction.

- "Possible" collapse of civilization due to Climate Change
- An imminent collapse of the economy.
- Global food shortages and starvation.
- Mutant Covid strains.
- The imminent end of Democracy in the US

Everything is a crisis. I do believe there is something gratifying (even sexually arousing) about being in a continual state of outrage about everything.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 01:03 pm
@maxdancona,
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Its not just one thing... It is everything.

No, not "everything". You left out soggy cornflakes. And mullet haircuts.

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Todays people on the ledt wing are prediction.

Translation please?

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- "Possible" collapse of civilization due to Climate Change
- An imminent collapse of the economy.
- Global food shortages and starvation.
- Mutant Covid strains.
- The imminent end of Democracy in the US

None of your many posts successfully make the case that any of these are not causes for concern. Branding them "extreme" doesn't make them any more or any less likely to occur. You need to show that there's insufficient evidence to be concerned with these ideas by exposing the arguments used to justify them. You've not been able to do this.

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Everything is a crisis.

Yes, because you make it a crisis. You're obsessed with other people's view of the future and the fact that it doesn't concur with yours. You've posted pages and pages of responses and several recent threads which highlight your obsession and reflect your outrage.
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I do believe there is something gratifying (even sexually arousing) about being in a continual state of outrage about everything.

Well, you're the only one who would know for sure because you're the only one in a continual state of outrage about things the rest of us take for granted. We've all grown up with scary headlines. Learning to live with uncertainty is a necessary skill in an age of global information. You certainly didn't need to share that you find it sexually arousing.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 01:29 pm
When I'd read "A history of political extremism", I'd thought it was actually something about wars in ancient Rome, medieval crusades, Spanish conquistadors, Nazi concentration camps, IRA, al Qaeda, ISIS ... and not a new lecture in solipsism.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 03:33 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Those Trump supporters who claim there was massive fraud in the 2020 US presidential election are often called extremists. I feel this usage is appropriate, don't you?

I use the word "extremism" to refer to pushing a political, economic or ecological ideology far beyond what is supported by the facts (or basic logic). This definition can be applied in the same respect to either the political left or the political right.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 10 Oct, 2021 04:06 pm
@maxdancona,
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I feel this usage is appropriate, don't you?

I don't. The Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and the Y'all-Qaeda buffoons, sure, but the average MAGAtard doesn't fit my definition of a political extremist.
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I use the word "extremism" to refer to pushing a political, economic or ecological ideology far beyond what is supported by the facts (or basic logic).

But, due to your confessed "ideological narrativeĀ©", it's doubtful that your interpretation of the facts is understood in the same way by those you label "extremist".
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 05:57 am
maxdancona wrote:
Before that, Communism in Southeast Asia was a breaking point. If we left Vietnam to the communists it would lead to a domino effect and the end of global peace. The predicted collapse of global stability never took place.

You can thank Ronald Reagan for that.

When progressive traitors tried to follow up on selling out South Vietnam to the Communists by selling out Central America as well, Mr. Reagan kept aid flowing to the Contra freedom fighters.
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