How Do You Get Turned On A By A Really Goodlooking Woman?

@maxdancona,

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Calling a woman "trashy looking" because you don't approve of where she works is classless. You should at least retract this statement.

No, I won't retract that statement. I said "trashy-looking" and, in my eyes, a woman who dances in public wearing only butt-floss for the entertainment of male customers looks trashy. It's pretty much the definition of looking trashy. And it's not where she works that matters, it's what she does.

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@hightor,

Well Hightor....

Hopefully you can respect the women that you are with whoever they are. If that means you only have sex after marriage while fully clothed in missionary position before 8:30pm on alternate weekends....so be it.

Some of is enjoy a wider range of sexual activities than you do. I do believe that whatever you do, you should care about the feelings of the other people involved.

By the way, I have worn a thong (fairly recently). My girlfriend requested ot as part of sexual play. The "ass floss" felt a little ridiculous, and not exactly comfortable. My girlfriend showed her appreciation in the most wonderful of ways.

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@hightor,

That's the work uniform and what is demanded by her management and clientele. "Trashy" seems like a judgement to me even if you qualify it with "looking".

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@harmonica,

If you truly are not feeling the spark, then you end it kindly. You have no obligation to her (or to your friends). Not every relationship is meant to be.

There is nothing.wrong with saying "I am sorry, but this isnt working". Sezuality is about a lot more than looks. Having a partner with whom you feel comfortable in bed is important. Different people look for different things in a partner, as we get older we learn more about what os important to us

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@engineer,

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That's the work uniform and what is demanded by her management and clientele.

So what? It still looks trashy even if the management and clientele demand it.

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"Trashy" seems like a judgement to me even if you qualify it with "looking".

It is a judgment — on how someone looks.

"It costs a lot of money to look this cheap."
...D. Parton

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@maxdancona,

You know Max - it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other -- most of society falls somewhere in the middle.

You are extreme on one side of the coin and JGoldman is the opposite. Neither is wrong - however most fall somewhere in the middle.

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@Linkat,

I dont judge JGoldman, to each his own. I was considering jumping in to defend him on the political correctness thread, except he is sometimes difficult to defend, and he kind of asks for it, and I clash enough with his tormenters as it is.

Hightor has to figure out his own sexuality for himself. I am only pushing back on the judgments he makes on the sexuality of other people.

If someone is happy with how they are.... I have no problem with that even if they express themselves differently that I do.

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@maxdancona,

I haven't made any judgments about people's "sexuality". I haven't made any comments about my own sexual proclivities, nor am I the slightest bit interested in yours. My observations were about the business of exploiting the primal instincts of males and suggesting that some men don't find those sorts activities particularly engaging.

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@hightor,

When I read your posts, they feel judgemental about things that I consider to be normal facets of human sexuality. That is what I am reacting to.

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@maxdancona,

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When I read your posts, they feel judgemental about things that I consider to be normal facets of human sexuality.

When I read your posts, you seem to parading your tastes and suggesting that everyone shares the same outlook on sexuality. And, when someone objects to your inclusiveness, you insult them as being uptight or confused or say that they need to figure out their own sexuality for themselves. Much of what is currently considered sexually "normal" has been influenced by the culture industry and has had harmful effects on men and women.

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@maxdancona,

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By the way, I have worn a thong (fairly recently).

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@hightor,

You say "objecting to inclusiveness". I say "being judgemental". I think we are on the same page here. "Objecting to inclusiveness" is a perfectly good definition of the term "judgemental".

There is a difference between living your own life, and making judgements about how other people choose to live their lives. (I am making judgments about your tendency to make judgements about other people.... I don't know exactly where that fits in).

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@Region Philbis,

Actually, I got rave reviews from everyone there Wink

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@Region Philbis,

Region Philbis wrote:

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By the way, I have worn a thong (fairly recently).

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPYBb2DRsg[/youtube]

lol!

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@maxdancona,

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I think we are on the same page here.

We're not.

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"Objecting to inclusiveness" is a perfectly good definition of the term "judgemental".

It most certainly isn't.

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@hightor,

Can you explain what you mean by "objecting to inclusiveness"?

In general, I consider inclusiveness to be a good thing (i.e. with consensual acts between adults)

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@maxdancona,

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Can you explain what you mean by "objecting to inclusiveness"?

I can try. You like to go to strip clubs. You insist that all men like to do this and any that don't are either liars or haven't come to terms with their sexuality.
Don't automatically assume that you set the norm. Don't include me in the field of "all men who enjoy commoditized sexual entertainment". Don't react defensively when I ask not to be included. And don't jump to conclusions or rush to judgment because I don't conform. It's very objectionable.

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@hightor,

I never said "all men". I did say "most men". And I am statistically correct. In surveys more than 60% of men report they "would enjoy" going to strip clubs, and 70% of men use pornography regularly. The prevelance of these business are more evidence of this.

I have no problem with how you choose to express your sexuality as long as you dont pass judegment on other people

Most men enjoy strip clubs. Some men don't. There is no reason to take offense.

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