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What is Truth?

 
 
Reply Fri 12 Feb, 2021 08:50 am
I'm not talking about "factual sensory data".

These are "facts".

I'm asking, What is Truth?
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Reply Fri 12 Feb, 2021 09:00 am
@NoName77,
Truth is Absolute.

This very thought is offensive to most, but it cannot be denied. Sensory data, facts, are all perspective, and change, depending upon momentums and angles and just about everything else.
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knaivete
 
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Reply Fri 12 Feb, 2021 06:25 pm
@NoName77,
When do we get to the god bit? Are we there yet?
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2021 12:55 am
@knaivete,
Well, before we can decide where Truth comes from, we have to decide what Truth is, as far as I can tell. I'm not getting into God necessarily, unless someone ties God to the subject at hand. I personally do not see them separable, but I'm trying to stay on track here. Not preaching at all. I'm curious how people separate "fact" from "Truth", and what defines them?
NoName77
 
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2021 12:59 am
@NoName77,
"Truth", in and of itself, has to have properties. "Facts" as well. Two separate words, for the same thing? I don't think so. Even if there is a fraction of a difference, there must be something that sets them apart from one another, else why the need for two words?
knaivete
 
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2021 03:52 am
@NoName77,
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there must be something that sets them apart from one another, else why the need for two words?


You mentioned need. Did you need to do that? Was it free will?

Perhaps sometimes the words are used synonymously.

Why not just jump to the chase and astound us with your ineffable, ineluctable insight?
NoName77
 
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2021 01:57 pm
@knaivete,
Yes, I mentioned the "need" for a difference, however slight, in meaning. As for trying to reach a point, my point is truly in this simple differentiation betwixt two "similar" words. Similarity does not make "oneness". I think Experience alone is enough to rely on for this proof. Given that very foundation, the two words are clearly different, not just in spelling, but in meaning. My question simply is, what are these differences? What those differences "mean", is not at all on the table right now. I am simply seeking a discussion on the difference in essential meanings between the "facts" and the "Truth"?
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NoName77
 
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2021 03:57 pm
@knaivete,
The Belief of Lies.... does that Belief make it true? Obviously not. Yet, not so obvious to the one who had the Experience. Which brings me to an awesome point indeed.... What validates the "scientific method", but merely the Experience of the Momentum of Belief?
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NoName77
 
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2021 03:58 pm
@knaivete,
"Why not just jump to the chase...."?

I'm not planning on astounding anyone with anything. But, having said that, if I WERE planning something of the sort, Preparations are needed for most noble endeavors. But I'm sure I don't have to tell a person of your lofty mind such things.
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