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who or whom?

 
 
Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 01:52 am
Prime Minister Lee paid tribute to Mr Ngiam, whom he said stood up for his intelligence as well as his willingness to speak his mind.

Should it be "who" instead of "whom"?
Should there be a comma after "said"?

Thanks.
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nacredambition
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 07:57 am
@tanguatlay,
Who gives a flying fadoobadas family about 'who' when the entire sentence is complete and utter drivel?



yes it's a word


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nacredambition
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 05:37 am
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong yesterday paid tribute to former top civil servant Ngiam Tong Dow, whom he said stood out for his intellect and empathy, as well as his willingness to speak his mind.

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/pm-lee-friends-pay-tribute-to-ngiam-tong-dow

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Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom. Who should be used to refer to the subject of a sentence.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 07:59 am
Thanks, nacredambition.

So it should be "who".
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 08:50 pm
@tanguatlay,
Ngiam Tong Dow is the object of the sentence, ". . . to Ngiam Tong Dow," so "to whom."

A comma isn't necessary after "said" in your sentence.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2020 09:55 am
Thanks, InfraBlue

So "whom" is the correct preposition.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 26 Aug, 2020 07:36 am
I'm confused. It seems nacredambition says "who", but InfraBlue's answer is "whom".
Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Wed 26 Aug, 2020 06:35 pm
@tanguatlay,
No comma, who.

https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/grammar-rules-and-tips/grammar-usage-who-versus-whom.html

The Subject/Object Connection
Next, it's also important to note "who" refers to a subject of a clause and "whom" refers to the object of a clause. So, if you think in terms of people doing something then "who," as the subject, is the person carrying out the action or doing something. Conversely, "whom," as the object, is the person receiving the action.

Example Sentences
Knowing "who" is the subject of a clause while "whom" is the object of a clause is one thing. Seeing it in action will help this stick in your memory bank.

Sentences Using Who
Let's look at a few examples with "who."

Who handed it to her?

His friend who lives in Austin came to visit.

I wasn't the one who made him feel unwelcome.

People who take time to be kind are rewarded for their good deeds.

Couples who hold hands stay together longer.

Remember, "who" is the person doing the action. As the subject of a clause, "who" tends to come before the verb of the sentence.

Sentences With Whom
Now, let's take a look at where "whom" lands in the grand scheme of things.

He is the one whom I love.

Why are we running and from whom are we running?

Those flowers came from whom?

He is our savior whom we adore.

Whom shall I call?

"Whom" tends to land after a preposition, like "from" and "to." It also tends to come after the verb of the sentence. However, that's not to discount it from being the first word in a sentence.

The important point to remember is that "whom" is receiving the action while "who" is performing the action. For example, "We will celebrate whom?" In this case, "whom" is receiving the action of celebrating.

The Best Way to Remember
If all that seems a tad too technical, here's the best way to remember when to use "who" and when to use "whom."

Use "who" when the subject of the sentence would normally require a subject pronoun like "he" or "she."
For example, "Who is the best in class?" If you rewrote that question as a statement, "he is the best in class" makes perfect sense.

Use "whom" when a sentence needs an object pronoun like "him" or "her." For example, "This is for whom?" Again, if you rewrote that question as a statement, "this is for him" sounds correct.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Thu 27 Aug, 2020 01:30 am
Many thanks, Miss Toad, for your detailed reply!
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