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Can we observe anything coherent while it is in flight? Is Dark Energy and/or Dark Matter coherent?

 
 
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2020 11:19 am
Does decoherence in the double slit experiment display something being added to our reality?
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2020 11:57 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Is it not obvious that we are in a mixed reality of coherence and decoherence?
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2020 12:19 pm
@pittsburghjoe,
Physicality is a holographic decoherence filter on the coherent universe.
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 07:06 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Galaxies are not expanding internally with the rest of the universe because they are sitting in clouds of coherent dark matter. Everything we know as physical builds off these platforms.

You can't have decoherence without a coherent base.

There is a chance Dark matter and energy is always coherent ..and therefore unobservable. It can't wave collapse. There isn't a way for them to be analog/physical/wave packet.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 09:18 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Decoherence doesn't exist.

Double-Slit is One 2D observation from it's own 3D 'multi-linear' perspective.
No 2 things can occupy the same 3D spacial location.

Imagine this...

A machine-Gunner - Rattles-off 50,000 rounds into a single target - All laser-aligned - All in the space of 1 minute.

Result - One hole in target...
Why?
Because the event is within the field-spectrum (As are you - The observer).
If you observed this from Mars, travelling at light-speed - You would see an array of shots, fired at an array of targets.

Because the Earth is rotating.

Observe from orion - Both Earth and Solar-system are rotating.

Observe from Betelguese - Earth, Solar-system and milky way are rotating.

When you observe anything in the subatomic spectrum - You observe - As if from Betelguese to the power of 50.

Photons don't care where they (It - There's Only 1) are observed from - Only you do - And neither you or your measuring device is EVER observing from the SAME spacial-location.

Mark
pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 10:45 am
@mark noble,
Of course there is decoherence, you get two different results on the final panel.

Performing the double slit experiment is playing with the boundary of coherence/decoherence.

I think gravity can only occur within clouds of coherence that have decohered objects.
mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 10:55 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Out of curiousity, Joe.
Why do you even care?
Mark
pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 11:13 am
@mark noble,
Why do I care how this reality works? Are you kidding me?
mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 11:46 am
@pittsburghjoe,
No.
Just Enjoy the journey.

https://youtu.be/d9fC3flXY5g
Or https://youtu.be/d9fC3flXY5g

Mark
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 11:48 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Is Spacetime made of clouds of coherence?
mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 11:54 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Moreso - One cohesive, monolythic entity.
You can call it cloud - You can apply to it, any label you choose - But it contains everything and everything contains it.

Mark
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Teufel
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 01:05 pm
@pittsburghjoe,
Just as a matter of interest ... do any of you have any sort of qualifications in Mathematics and/or Physics, past the state school basics?
pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2020 03:48 pm
@Teufel,
I'm handing you the key. Do you know what coherent light is? Quantum waves in phase, it hasn't and won't be measured during its flight from point a to b. If it has a cause of decoherence in its path, it will start out as a decoherent wave packet.

This boundary between coherence and decoherence is a very big deal, it is the core of everything. A free single atom will be unobservable, coherent, and in superposition until it hits something.

Our reality of physical objects doesn't start unless there is a foundation of coherent waves to convert.
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 08:51 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Do coherent waves of quantum information instruct what type of atom to form on wave collapse?

Is each atom its own holographic principle hologram made of quantum information?

Does quantum information convert to matter?
mark noble
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 10:02 am
@pittsburghjoe,
Here's a Full example of E8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJi3_znm7ZE

Live & Learn
Enjoy - And Have a lovely day
Mark
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 07:00 am
@pittsburghjoe,
We wouldn't be here without coherent quantum information. Once an object is connected to enough atoms to be automatically over the quantum/classical boundary ..it stays decoherent. If you shave a single atom off you, that atom has the opportunity to be coherent.

A coherent quantum wave can become decoherent, but a decoherent object that is over a certain size can't become coherent. That means coherence is at the root.

Decoherence is coherent quantum information being accessed in a pilot wave.

Coherent quantum information is the raw form of matter. The root of our reality is information.

I think the operating system of the program we are in runs off coherent code.

Dark matter and energy is coherent code that doesn't have a compatible form of our decohered matter and energy.

Is the quantum/classical boundary decided by an if statement?

Decoherence seems like 3D rendering software with coherent code input.
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pittsburghjoe
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2020 03:16 pm
@pittsburghjoe,
Does it require a certain amount of information to be rendered automatically?
Is this the reason for the quantum/classical boundary?

Was the Big Bang coherent quantum information that later decohered into matter?

Inflation was the coherent spacetime expansion of the environment bounds of this reality.

Coherence is waves in phase. It is directly unobservable. It is superposition. Coherent quantum information is what can travel through a barrier during tunneling, mass is a variable.

Decohered is the observed, the physical, the local. Decoherence is secondary to Coherence.

A coherent pilot wave in infinite. Decoherence is intrinsically finite, it has defined position and momentum.
Coherent quantum information will be along the entire path instantly, but the coherent wave bulk still takes time to propagate. If you cause starlight to decohere, it will be a decohered wave packet as it leaves the star ..years ago.

My question is if quantum information remains coherent after decoherence. Is decoherence just reading the information and generating holographic atoms? I think multiple instances of decoherence causing fringes to return is telling us something.
Physical atoms and their information do not go past the event horizon of a black hole. Black Holes are unobservable, yes because light can't escape ..but what if it's because coherence is unobservable also?

Information paradox says quantum information can't be destroyed, but the decohered objects created from it can be. The hologram that decoherence created gets erased at the event horizon of a Black Hole. The quantum information is entropy.

A Black Hole being only a shell of quantum information hints at the starting conditions of the universe.

The neutral inside of a Black Hole should be what this place was before the Big Bang.

Did the Big Bang happen inside a preexisting Black Hole?
Was the bang, quantum information (entropy) being added to the Black Hole that utilized the Holographic Principle?

Does the holographic principle work with coherent, incoherent, or decoherent quantum information?
Could the surface area of a black hole contain instructions and variables for physics?

If a Black Hole is only quantum information, does it suggest that the physical objects falling in is turning off an illusion?
Does it do this because our parent Black Hole is responsible for decoherence?
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