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What do you think of this? Should the conservative people of Oregon be allowed to move their counties to Idaho? Look at it like this would it not be the best solution for both sides? The conservatives wouldn’t have to live with liberals and the liberal would have the deplorable they despise in their state.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/483420-outraged-oregon-residents-petition-to-join-idaho

A group of Oregon residents is petitioning to have two counties in their state join Idaho, citing Oregon’s Democratic leadership.
Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho said Josephine and Douglas counties have accepted ballot initiatives supporting a goal of joining Idaho, the organization said in a press release earlier this month.
The Josephine County ballot initiative specifically “makes it county policy to cooperate with any state effort to move the Oregon/Idaho border, if any such effort develops,” the group said.
The Douglas County Initiative amends a current ordinance to “add Idaho officials to the list of officials who may be lobbied by Douglas County commissioners. The suggested ballot question is ‘Shall the County Board be authorized to advocate for Idaho legislation, such as making this county a county of Idaho?’” the group noted.
The group must gather 2,429 signatures in Josephine County by Aug. 5 and 2,955 signatures from Douglas County residents to appear on the ballot in the general election in November.
Mike McCarter of La Pine, Ore., and Valerie Gottschalk of Selma, Ore., are the “chief petitioners” and leaders of the “movement,” the group said.
“Rural counties have become increasingly outraged by laws coming out of the Oregon Legislature that threaten our livelihoods, our industries, our wallet, our gun rights, and our values. We tried voting those legislators out but rural Oregon is outnumbered and our voices are now ignored. This is our last resort,” McCarter said in a statement.

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Maybe they want an average household income of $8,000 less. Plus, a median property value over $100,000 less. Higher percentage of uninsured.
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/idaho
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/oregon

College tuition is cheaper. But the percentage of college graduates is lower.
https://nscresearchcenter.org/signature-report-14-state-supplement-completing-college-a-state-level-view-of-student-completion-rates/

But if these people want to screw up their own lives in some belief they're going to stick it to the libs, then who am I to stop them?

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@jespah,

"But if these people want to screw up their own lives in some belief they're going to stick it to the libs, then who am I to stop them?"

Well, that is generous of you, but I would suspect that is not what will happen. The liberals of Oregon will fight the conservative of greater Idaho to the death to keep the conservatives under the liberal political boot heel.

And what makes you so sure that liberals have all the answers.

I am relatively new here so I don’t want to give the impression that I am a conservative; I am a somewhat unbiased conserver.

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@longly1,

Now you are just being silly. Do you really think we should change state lines to accommodate political groups. The last time that happened there was a huge civil war that killed more Americans than in all the wars since then.

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@longly1,

Now, that's not what I wrote, and you know it.

To go to another state where they would lose in property values, average salary, and college graduation rates, just because they don't like the politics of a place is just plain silly. What I didn't include is the minimum wage in Oregon is $4/hour more than in Idaho.

If these folks want to lose money, then they're welcome to do so. But they're probably not thinking that way.

And furthermore, they have a remedy. Vote people out if you don't like them. Not the majority? Then vote for a representative who you love and who will be aggressive. But taking your ball and going home is silly.

And what happens if they decide they don't like Idaho (for whatever reason) in the future? Do they go knocking on Washington State's door?

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@longly1,

longly1 wrote:

I am relatively new here so I don’t want to give the impression that I am a conservative; I am a somewhat unbiased conserver.

sure you are, which is why you use inflammatory language in bold.

longly1 wrote:

"The liberals of Oregon will fight the conservative of greater Idaho to the death to keep the conservatives under the liberal political boot heel.

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@izzythepush,

"longly1 wrote:
I am relatively new here so I don’t want to give the impression that I am a conservative; I am a somewhat unbiased conserver.

sure you are, which is why you use inflammatory language in bold.

longly1 wrote:

"The liberals of Oregon will fight the conservative of greater Idaho to the death to keep the conservatives under the liberal political boot heel."

I am trying to be provocative or do you prefer dull and I am speaking in metaphor. I don’t mean to imply that the liberal government of Oregon would send out death squads to eliminate their enemies. However, there are some liberals like those that make the Antifa goons that would find finds that acceptable.

I assumed that everyone could recognize metaphor; I hope I don’t have start adding “metaphor alert” to the end of each sentence in which I use a metaphor.

And I did say somewhat unbiased. I admit that I do tend to lean towards the conservatives, but that is out of gratitude for their resistance to the communist in the Cold War.

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@longly1,

You're trying to be provocative, I can see that, but ultimately you're coming across as very dull and uninformed.

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@jespah,

I am sorry if I misrepresented what you said I wouldn’t do that. I interpreted
"Now, that's not what I wrote, and you know it."

I am sorry if I misrepresented what you said I wouldn’t do that. I interpreted what you wrote as saying even though you thought it a bad idea to move these counties from Washington to Idaho you would be willing to let them if it was up to you.

And there is nothing to prevent moving state borders as many times as the people want if the states involved and the federal government agrees. However, I have to admit that the US Constitution does back the government of Washington State; the border cannot be changed without their approval. But since liberals are fond of talking about the will of the people they should allow the border to be redrawn or admit to being hypocrites. Or do they mean the will of liberal people should be obeyed?

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@longly1,

Ha ha ha you're a funny person.

This whole proposal is the height of laziness. Don't like the state you're living in? Then rent a U-Haul and move.

Kinda amazing how that works.

And who said anything about that vast librul conspiracy oh my God Ethel they're coming out of the woodwork redrawing state boundaries? I think the last time a state boundary was redrawn was what, when West Virginia was formed?

Anyway, thanks for the guffaws and back to work for me.

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@longly1,

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And, I am a Democrat at least for the time being.

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Thu 17 Oct, 2019 10:28 am

Get jack of those boots did you?

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@Miss L Toad,

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And, I am a Democrat at least for the time being.

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Thu 17 Oct, 2019 10:28 am

Get jack of those boots did you? "

I am not sure what you are getting at there. Jackboot is sometimes used to refer to fascist or organized thugs of one form or another. But that can’t be me; I dedicated my life to resisting the communist the worse murdering thugs of the twentieth century. My hero is Ronald Reagan for his unappreciated struggle against the Communist. He saved the world from communist slavery but never got credit for it.

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