@hightor,
Agree! But it shouldent be ran by a bunch of politicians. How about giving some collage professors a chance. You know, thinking people with brains and no agenda but thinking every American should have a chance to vote.
@hightor,
This is a really interesting idea. And it also makes sense in just a practical way, that people aren't crisscrossing the country quite so much -- which isn't too environmentally friendly, nor is it great for candidates' health. Candidates who aren't jet lagged would, I hope, be better at answering questions. I imagine it would also give some help to candidates who don't have such overwhelmingly huge war chests.
@jespah,
I've also heard of a plan where the state with the highest level of voter participation in the last election would be awarded the first contest.
Seems idiotic that they're dribbling out the 'results' when the app and human backup was botched. Is this some kind of lame CYA move?
Who is going to believe the outcome.
@Brand X,
They shouldn't release any partial results; that's really stupid. I'd have more respect for them if they admitted it was fucked up beyond all recognition and simply declared a mistrial.
@hightor,
I'm with you there. I heard somewhere they are trying to be "transparent", but I think they are just adding to the chaos.
This partial reporting of "just the precincts that have sent in results so far" is the way election results normally come in on election night. Everything is just in slow motion this time.
Although, I can't imagine what is taking them so long.
Kill the Iowa Caucuses already.
Many Errors Are Evident in Iowa Caucus Results Released Wednesday
Quote:The results released by the Iowa Democratic Party on Wednesday were riddled with inconsistencies and other flaws. According to a New York Times analysis, more than 100 precincts reported results that were internally inconsistent, that were missing data or that were not possible under the complex rules of the Iowa caucuses.
@tsarstepan,
Trouble with vote counting is no reason to not have a caucus.
Just do a hand recount. All the caucus-goers recorded their choices on paper.
Shouldn't Perez just resign already?
Tom Perez
@TomPerez
· 46m
Enough is enough. In light of the problems that have emerged in the implementation of the delegate selection plan and in order to assure public confidence in the results, I am calling on the Iowa Democratic Party to immediately begin a recanvass.
Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
· 1h
NEW: The Iowa Democratic Party did not have advance warning that @TomPerez was calling for a recanvass of the Iowa caucus results, two people familiar with the matter tell @CNN. Perez doesn't point out that the DNC has been running the show in Iowa for the last 48 hours.
@oralloy,
I seem to remember some delegates being declared ineligible because of irregularities in voting. Could this happen again?
Matt Taibbi
@mtaibbi
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17h
Which results do you find credible? The first ones, the ones after the corrections, the ones yet to come?
'Calls for Tom Perez to step down as the head of the Democratic National Committee grew louder Tuesday in the aftermath of the Iowa caucus fiasco in which party mismanagement of the process delayed the results from Monday night's contest and left the 2020 Democratic presidential primary in disarray.
"The Iowa caucus debacle is so insulting to the candidates, their volunteers, the caucus-goers, and the DNC's own process," tweeted HuffPost senior reporter Zach Carter. "Tom Perez has to resign."
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/05/tom-perez-under-fire-for-iowa-disaster-favoritism-for-billionaire-oligarch-bloomberg_partner/
Secular Talk
@KyleKulinski
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9h
I think the Bernie campaign should sue the Iowa dem party and the DNC. I trust the court system more than I trust them. They seriously argued we have to keep these incorrect numbers to preserve the process. That's insane. This is rigging in real time
If the Democrats really want to win the 2020 presidential election the thing to do is to give the little people out there in the middle of the country more hope than Trump and then live up to your promises. After all, why should a Mexican truck driver be able to compete with an American driver on US highways? If you need more truck drivers perhaps you should try paying US truckers more money.
@longly1,
Truck drivers are being paid more than ever. There was a severe shortage of drivers 1.5 years ago so companies were offering big sign on bonuses, enhanced benefits and pay.
The Democrat party was a bit surprised and put off when Bernie Sanders unexpectedly stimulated widespread enthusiastic support among a fairly large minority of democrat voters in the 2016 election. One result was that DNC changed the rules for so called super delegates in their conventions to enable their establishment to better control such populist uprisings. Now with the increasing population densities in the coastal states, most with significant Democrat majorities they now want to redo the electoral college to give themselves improved outcomes in national elections.
So far their track record in managing election processes to achieve desired outcomes isn't very good. The unfolding rise of the new left among their current Presidential candidates has left Democrat leaders nervous about their electability. A result was the resurrection of former VP Biden as an ":electable moderate" torchbearer. Now, following public reacquaintance with Biden's shallow, gaffe-prone character, and the emergence of his corruption ( an unexpected side-effect of an Ill-conceived and ineffectual Impeachment) his candidacy is tanking. Mike Bloomberg is favored by many party leaders, and is stepping in as a willing replacement, However it remains to be seen what this progressive billionaire's effort to buy the nomination will do to already fractured party unity.
All this, and the recent debacle in the Iowa primary, make the Party's efforts to control or influence electoral outcomes look fairly bad.
Biden is corrupt and everyone knows but this selling of influence through family members is widespread among the Washington elite so Biden is not the only one. It is not technically illegal but it is corrupt and immoral. But what’s worse is that Biden basically did the same thing that trump was accused of doing and bragged it but no one raised an eyebrow over what Biden did. That demonstrates a grand level of hypocrisy; how does one trust people like that? The Democrats have a lot of soul searching to do before November
