Heaven & Hell

every separate religion has become commercial for its own worldview. "My way is right and everyone elses who doesnt believe as I, is gonna be punished for heresy"

Jews make it simple, "live life, this is it"

I live and let live. However, Jesus COMMANDS His followers to preach the good news of salvation through Him alone. Jesus taught more about hell than heaven. Ever asked yourself why? You don't have to believe as I do but my job is to warn you about eternity without God.

I warn you in turn: You are going to be mighty surprised to find out you are still dead after you die.

I pray for your soul.

According to the Bible, the fool has said in his heart THERE IS NO GOD. I do not want to take any changes.

The Bible also allows for slavery and many other forms of degradation. You just haven't been reading enough.

Quote at least 3 verses. I bet you have taken the verses out of content.

Read the book you preach about. I bet you haven't read over a couple of books complete and mostly just skip around to the parts you like.

Wrong again.

10. God destroys a good family 'for no reason.'

God made a bet with Satan that Job, a good and blameless man, would remain faithful even if he killed his children and ruined his life. Here we see God indicting himself for the crime, openly confessing that he destroyed a family "for no reason."

"The Lord said to Satan, 'Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one like him on the Earth, a blameless and upright man who fears God and turns away from evil. He still persists in his integrity, although you incited me against him, to destroy him for no reason.' " (Job 2:3 New Revised Standard Bible)

9. God destroys the fetuses of those who do not worship him.

This is not the only feticidal passage in the bible, but it is the worst:

"You shall acknowledge no God but me. . . . You are destroyed, Israel. . . . The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:4, 9, 16 New International Version)

8. God approves the massacre of a peaceful people so one of his tribes could have a place to live.

Most believers think God destroyed the Canaanites because they were depraved and immoral, although the bible does not make that claim. They were killed — and labeled "evil" and "wicked" — simply because they did not worship him. Here is a group of people who did nothing wrong. They were "at peace and secure," but they had to be eliminated.

"And in those days the tribe of the Danites was seeking a place of their own where they might settle, because they had not yet come into an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. . . . Then they said to [the priest], 'Please inquire of God to learn whether our journey will be successful.' The priest answered them, 'Go in peace. Your journey has the Lord's approval.' . . . Then they took what Micah had made, and his priest, and went on to Laish, against a people at peace and secure. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city. . . . The Danites rebuilt the city and settled there." (Judges 18:1–28 NIV)

The Canaanites were not the evildoers. The Israelites were the invaders!

7. Babies are slaughtered and wives raped.God - The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction by Dan Barker

The murderous Old Testament deity deemed human life to be worthless, placing his own megalomaniacal glory above human values. Here is one of the worst examples:

"See, the day of the Lord is coming — a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated." (Isaiah 13:9–16 NIV)

6. A mixed-race couple is murdered by a godly priest to keep God's people pure.
The righteous priest Phinehas murdered a loving couple for the crime of miscegenation. Then he was praised by God and rewarded for the hate crime with a perpetual priesthood for keeping the nation racially pure.

"Just then one of the Israelites came and brought a Midianite woman into his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the Israelites. When Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he got up and left the congregation. Taking a spear in his hand, he went after the Israelite man into the tent, and pierced the two of them, the Israelite and the woman, through the belly. So the plague was stopped among the people of Israel. The Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 'Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, has turned back my wrath from the Israelites by manifesting such zeal among them on my behalf that in my jealousy I did not consume the Israelites. Therefore say, "I hereby grant him my covenant of peace. It shall be for him and for his descendants after him a covenant of perpetual priesthood, because he was zealous for his God, and made atonement for the Israelites.' '" (Numbers 25:6–13 NRSV)

5. A daughter is burned as an acceptable sacrifice to God.

General Jephthah made a vow with God in order to defeat the enemy. When Jephthah won the war, God received his hundred pounds of flesh.

"And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: 'If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.' . . . When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! . . . After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed." (Judges 11:30–39 NIV)

After burning his daughter, Jephthah was rewarded with a prestigious judgeship and was later buried with honor.

4. The cannibalistic God makes people eat human flesh.

There are nine passages in the Old Testament where God makes cannibalistic threats. Here is the worst one:

"And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." (Leviticus 26:27–29 King James Version)

3. God threatens rape, then takes credit for it.

This passage was new to me, and it blew me away. I guess I had only read it before in the King James Version, where the sexual molestation is not obvious. Here it is in the NRSV, where the Israelites were asking why they were being attacked by the Babylonians:
"Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:15–26 NRSV)

"Skirts lifted up" is sexual assault. "Violate" is rape. The King James Version has the quaint "heels made bare," which obscures the sexual assault.

Notice that the "iniquity" for which they were being raped was not immorality or depravity; it was simply because "you have forgotten me."

2. God threatens sexual molestation.

The Lord will harass attractive uppity women by exposing their private parts.
"Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet: Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts." (Isaiah 3:16–17 KJV)

The New International Version covers up this embarrassing passage with "make their scalps bald" in place of "discover their secret parts [Hebrew: poth = vagina]." Other translations are more honest: The Orthodox Jewish Bible has "lay bare their nakedness," Amplified Bible "stripped naked," Complete Jewish Bible "expose their private parts," Common English Version "uncover their private parts," and Living Bible "expose their nakedness for all to see." Even if "daughters of Zion" is a metaphor for Israel, it is a metaphor of sexual assault.

1. God wants you to be happy to dash babies against the rocks.

I have always thought this was the worst verse in the bible, and my opinion remains unchanged.

"O daughter Babylon, you devastator! Happy shall they be who pay you back what you have done to us! Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!"(Psalm 137:8–9 NRSV)

God was not merely saying that regrettable collateral damage might occur during wartime. He said believers should be happy — some translations say "blessed" — to kill innocent babies of those who are keeping you from worshipping your own god.

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Anyone who claims to admire and worship the biblical God has either abandoned all sense of moral judgment or has never actually read the Old Testament. Since most believers are good people, I prefer to assume the latter.

A slam dunk! The prosecution rests.

Ball's in your court, harpazo.

I will reply one number at a time on my next day off.

He is simply another atheist blaming the God he C L A I M S doesnt exist. I will reply to each number on my next day off.

You are another Atheist blaming the God you C L A I M doesnt exist. I will reply one number at a time on my next day off. A reminder....

Atheist or not, he is not blaming a god. He is chastising you for admiring and worshiping an alleged being who prescribes to its followers such things as human sacrifice, rape, murder, and eternal torture.

His case against you is sound.

I am preparing a sound reply as well.

Reply to number 10

If you read this whole account, God didn't destroy Job's family, Satan did!

Job 2:4-7-But Satan answered Jehovah: “Skin for skin. A man will give everything that he has for his life. 5 But, for a change, stretch out your hand and strike his bone and flesh, and he will surely curse you to your very face.” 6 Then Jehovah said to Satan: “Look! He is in your hand! Only do not take his life!” 7 So Satan went out from the presence of Jehovah and struck Job with painful boils from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. Job 42:12-16-So Jehovah blessed the last part of Job’s life more than the beginning, and Job came to have 14,000 sheep, 6,000 camels, 1,000 pairs of cattle, and 1,000 female donkeys. 13 He also came to have seven more sons and three more daughters. 14 He named the first daughter Je·miʹmah, the second Ke·ziʹah, and the third Kerʹen-hapʹpuch. 15 No women in all the land were as beautiful as Job’s daughters, and their father gave them an inheritance along with their brothers. 16 After this Job lived for 140 years, and he saw his children and his grandchildren—four generations.

By the way, no such thing as a good race and a bad race in terms of God. We are all sinners worthy of death and hell as far as God is concerned. What you missed is that Satan accused God of not being fair! Which is something you are also doing. So, you are siding with Satan and that is not something that shows great intelligence or spiritual insight.

Reply to 9 another day.

It is said that the god knows the beginning to the end, and the end right from the beginning. If that is so, then it already knew that Job could not be turned. Therefore, the truth of the matter is that Satan tempted the god, and the god's pride caused it to unfairly allow Satan to abuse Job. Satan pushed the god's buttons, and the god fell for it. The god was tempted, and it failed to resist that temptation. And now you are here attempting to defend the god's part in the abuse of Job.

Think of it this way. Let's say you have a wife, and some old flame shows up and tells you that the only reason she stays with you is that you are wealthy and that you keep her safe. And let's say that, because you are so full of pride, you cannot stand the thought of someone believing that your wife is less than faithful. And let's say that your need to prove him wrong is so strong that it drives you to make a bet with the guy whereby you agree to ignore her and allow him to abuse her for a time.

And let's say that, for whatever dysfunctional reason, your wife fails to see your indifference to her pain and suffering for what it is, and continues to love and trust you anyway. And finally, let's say that you are so blind to what has happened here that you actually believe that showering her with gifts after your bet is won will justify your indifference to your wife's pain and suffering.

Enough said?