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NYSSD: "Wes Amerigo's Giant Fear"

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2003 11:41 am
Here's the new one:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=141498#141498

Which I hope Tartarin and D'Art will join, as well as everyone here, as I do enjoy their input as well.
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plkldf
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 08:29 am
>Wes = the West, Amerigo = America???

>You are right, too that No one in America can write right now without >having an overlay of 9/11 fear.

Hi, I'm new. Found this forum doing search for Wes Amerigo.

I think "Wes" is short for U.S. (yew-WES). US America is the main character. I do think it's an allegory. I don't think it has so much to do with 9-11 as it does with our decision whether to help the world or dominate it. Do we go morally bankrupt by continuing to serve blood (maraschino juice) to them, or do we give them something better, the freedom to pursue whatever dreams they have? Second Mountain is the second millenium we've just completed, I think, and the second hundred years of our history as a country.

I think the story is not about 9-11 but about Operation Iraqi Freedom or whatever self-serving name we've given it, and generally about our radical nationalist direction, our desire to hegemonize the whole world.

BTW, I just *loved* the story, aside from politics, and thought Michael was a HOOT! My favorite scene is where Pill and Lady are holding the guests at bay "Who makes the clams?" and they suddenly turn and jump into the van as it speeds off! I wonder if anyone's optioned it for a screenplay....

I'm Paul in Baltimore MD USA. I hope I know what I'm doing.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 11:56 am
Welcome, welcome, welcome Paul!

You most certainly know what you're doing.

I'm just breezing through at the moment so will have to come back to the specifics later but really enjoyed your post. We have a series of discussions on New Yorker short stories going... you can check the books forum or do a search for "NYSSD".

Again, welcome!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 05:08 pm
OK, have a minute now.

I like your "yew-Wes" observation. Makes sense.

The blood/Sheeno thing niggled at me too, and I think you're right that it means something.

What about the Giant Fear, though? That obviously is the center of the story -- what do you think causes it, if not 9/11? America's fear of failure? Fear of responsibility?

I agree about Michael, and that moment with Pill and Lady. Very cinematic, indeed.
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plkldf
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 06:56 pm
Sozobe wrote:
>What about the Giant Fear, though? That obviously is the center of the story -- what do you think causes it, if not 9/11? America's fear of failure? Fear of responsibility?

Dear Sozobe, thank you VERY much for the warm welcome! Surprised) The New Yorker fiction discussion series sounds super - can't wait!

From my point of view it's the very real fear that what I talked about earlier is down the road for us, and I don't think there's a Pill (an avatar, a messiah?) to rescue us the way she rescued Wes in the story.

For myself, my Giant Fear is that we Americans are corrupted by our power. We do not seem to want people to have freedom (the liberation, the ability to define their own experience after eating their "pills"), except the freedom to do what's best for us Americans. Otherwise - there's the blood. Not fear of failure, nor of responsibility, but the thing about nationalism, it seems to me, is that it involves a lot of fear. That's a shallow statement, and I can't back it up, but that's my sense -- the governments and political parties that are most fearful, and thus aggressive, are the nationalist ones, aren't they? Think about nationalist governments and parties -- they're characterized by extreme fear of those who oppose them, and obsessed with protecting themselves, and with bringing all who might threaten them under their control. Like us, now. We're afraid of everything. We're trying to protect everything from the "evil ones who hate us for our freedom." It's ridiculous!

My giant fear is of the nationalist direction we're taking, and our desire to hegemonize the whole world.

Thank you again for the warm welcome! best, Paul in Baltimore
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 26 Mar, 2003 09:43 pm
Hey Paul, (and everyone else), come on over here for the new discussion:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=151481#151481

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My giant fear is of the nationalist direction we're taking, and our desire to hegemonize the whole world.


You and me both.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2003 11:29 am
Paul/plk, WELCOME to A2K. Glad to see you on board. c.i.
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henrymatisse
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2003 11:10 pm
delightful
hi...new at this. actually was googling the author's name to see what other works he has done when i stumbled onto this interesting discussion Smile

i really enjoyed the imagery in this story...especially, when the food took different animal shapes. it made me think of mana and how wes had to put his entire financial fate in little pill's hands.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2003 08:44 am
Yes, manna! Exactly.

Welcome, Mr. Matisse!

Here's our current story discussion, if you are interested:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6533
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