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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 06:44 pm
Georgia Lawmaker Proposes Requiring Permission for Viagra, Criminalizing Vasectomies

Rep. Dar’shun Kendrick’s bill, a rebuke to HB 481, would also potentially make sex without a condom “aggravated assault”

By TESSA STUART

Georgia members of the Handmaid Coalition protest the passage of HB 481 outside the Capitol, Friday, March 8, 2019, in Atlanta. Now that the House has passed HB 481, the Senate is now tasked with tackling legislation that would ban most abortions after 6 weeks. The House approved the legislation late Thursday and advocates on both sides of the issues have already begun pushing senators to vote their way. (Bob Andres/Atlanta Journal-Constitution via AP)

On Monday morning, Georgia state Rep. Dar’shun Kendrick sent an email to her legislative counsel, the staffer responsible for writing bills.

Subject line: Testicular “Bill of Rights” Legislation.

Importance: High.

“Good morning,” Kendrick wrote. “Please have the following legislation drafted.” The 36-year-old Democrat went on to lay out her objectives as a bulleted list:

- Require men to obtain permission from their sexual partner before obtaining a prescription for Viagra.
-Ban vasectomies in Georgia, and criminalize the doctors who perform them.
- Classify sex without a condom as “aggravated assault.”
-Require paternity testing at 8 weeks of pregnancy, and require expectant fathers to begin paying child support immediately.
-Last but not least, Kendrick proposed a 24-hour waiting period on any men wishing to purchase any porn or sex toys in the state of Georgia.

“I’m dead serious,” Kendrick tells Rolling Stone, adding that she expects a draft on her desk by the end of the week. The point, she says, is to “bring awareness to the fact that if you’re going to legislate our bodies, then we have every right to propose legislation to regulate yours.”

Kendrick is spearheading the legislation, which she admits has little hope of ever passing the Georgia House of Representatives, to highlight the absurdity of HB 481, a bill that similarly legislates women’s bodies. On Thursday, the Georgia House approved HB 481, which would outlaw most abortions once a doctor can detect a heartbeat in the womb or around six weeks — before many women even realize they might be pregnant. The controversial “heartbeat bill” passed by a vote of 93-73. The bill will now head to the Georgia State Senate and, if approved as expected, to Governor Brian Kemp’s desk.

The bill, on its face, is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has made it clear in past cases that states cannot ban abortion before the point of viability — 23 to 25 weeks. But, as Kendrick, a lawyer, notes, that’s the point.

“It’s unconstitutional on purpose: this is a test case. It is a case to test Roe v. Wade. They’re hoping that it gets up to the Court of Appeals — the Eleventh Circuit is one of the most conservative court circuits that we have, and they’re hopeful that they will uphold part of it, and then they’ll take it all the way to the Supreme Court,” Kendrick says. “They know exactly what they are doing. This is intentional.”

Kendrick, who represents Metro-Atlanta’s 93rd district, has been a vocal opponent of the bill. Over the six years she has served in the Georgia House, she has watched the erosion of reproductive rights in real time. “In 2012, we had a bill that took [the cut-off to seek an abortion] from 26 weeks down to 20 weeks, and I knew that as soon as a Republican president got in office and was able to make Supreme Court nominations, that this was the direction we were headed,” she says.

As a member of the minority party in the House, all Kendrick can do to register her disapproval — above voting against the measure, as she did last week — is put forward her own bill in an effort to highlight the absurd double standard Georgia’s women, and perhaps all American women before too long, are being held to.

“I’ll get signatures on it, or not — I might be the only signature. That’s fine,” she says. The cut-off date to submit legislation for this calendar year has already passed, so “it doesn’t have a chance of passing this year,” she adds. “But I already know that it doesn’t have a chance of passing any year.”

The bill “is indicative of the people in power being scared that the tides are turning and we are going blue,” Kendrick says. “Georgia is going blue: we picked up 17 seats this past legislative session. So, as with most things, they are trying to rush it through because they know that it’s on the horizon. But if I am still here when Democrats take over, [the heartbeat bill] will be the first bill that I overturn if it’s not overturned already.”
 
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 06:51 pm
@neptuneblue,
-Ban vasectomies in Georgia, and criminalize the doctors who perform them.

I'm totally on board with this.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 07:16 pm
@neptuneblue,
Man required to get vasectomy as part of plea deal
JUNE 23, 2014 / 7:21 PM / AP

RICHMOND, Va. - A Virginia man who has fathered children with several women has agreed to get a vasectomy to reduce his prison term by up to five years in a child endangerment case that has evoked the country's dark history of forced sterilization.

None of the charges against Jessie Lee Herald, 27, involved a sexual offense. Shenandoah County assistant prosecutor Ilona White said her chief motive in making the extraordinarily unusual offer was keeping Herald from fathering more than the seven children he has by at least six women.

"He needs to be able to support the children he already has when he gets out," she said, adding that Herald and the state both benefit from the deal, first reported by the Northern Virginia Daily.

Though Herald willingly - if reluctantly, according to his attorney - signed on to the deal, the agreement immediately calls to mind the surgical sterilizations carried out in Virginia and dozens of other states during the 20th century under the discredited pseudoscience called eugenics, said Brandon Garrett, a University of Virginia law professor.

"This takes on the appearance of social engineering," said Steve Benjamin of Richmond, past president of the Virginia Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, who said he has never heard of a case like Herald's.

Some 8,000 people deemed genetically inferior or deficient were forcibly sterilized in Virginia from the 1920s to about 1970. Many other states also had eugenics programs but abandoned them after World War II when forced sterilizations became closely associated with Nazi Germany's racial purity efforts.

The movement resulted in the sterilization of tens of thousands of people, primarily the mentally disabled, minorities and the poor. North Carolina, the lone state to offer compensation to victims of its program, is allowing people until June 30 to apply for such payments.

Herald's attorney, Charles Ramsey, and White, the prosecutor, disputed any suggestion that the plea deal for Herald, who is white, has similarities to eugenics.

"I would never agree with that line of thinking. That was nowhere in my thought process," White said.

Said Ramsey, "I understand the comparison, but I don't think it's fair. That's kind of exaggerating it."

Herald, of Edinburg, was sentenced this month to one year and eight months in prison for child endangerment, hit and run , and driving on a suspended license in a crash in which authorities said his 3-year-old son was bloodied but not seriously hurt.

The agreement requires Herald to undergo the operation within a year of being released from prison and prohibits him from having the vasectomy reversed while he is on probation.

Herald will have to pay for the vasectomy, which can cost from a few hundred dollars to more than $1,000. Ramsey said the reason for giving his client a year to get the surgery was to give him time to come up with the money.

Charles Herald said he believes his nephew, who has worked as a roofer and in a poultry plant, has financially supported at least some of his children. But he could not say exactly how many there are.

"I don't think even he knows," Charles Herald said.

The Shenandoah County Sheriff's Office declined a request for a telephone interview with Herald, who is in the county jail.

Ramsey said he had an ethical duty to pass along to his client the prosecutor's highly unusual plea offer.

"It was not a no-brainer for him," Ramsey said. "It was a difficult decision. I had some reservations as well, but I don't want to get too much into my opinion of it because it's not my decision."

Benjamin, who said he was speaking in general terms and not about a specific case, said a vasectomy simply should not be a factor in plea negotiations.

"Sentencing conditions are designed to prevent future criminal behavior," he said. "Fathering children is not criminal behavior."

Said Garrett: "There's a question whether certain options should even be on the table."
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 08:20 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

-Ban vasectomies in Georgia, and criminalize the doctors who perform them.

I'm totally on board with this.


That's surprising. Almost all men who get vasectomies do so at the insistance of a woman. There is no man who has just decided to have one on his own.

But hell... If this is one area you and I can agree upon, I'll take it.

A law to prevent men from being neutered. I am all for it.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 08:28 pm
In my experience, most women who I have had anything more than a passing relationship with want to have sex without a condom.

In my past two sexual relationships, it was my female partner who first initiated sex without a condom. I don't suspect this is anything special about me.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 08:29 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
- Require men to obtain permission from their sexual partner before obtaining a prescription for Viagra.

I suspect that men with Erectile Dysfunction will not be happy if this were to be passed into law.

I wonder how men with Erectile Dysfunction will feel about this law if it were to pass.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 08:56 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
There is no man who has just decided to have one on his own.


False.

10 Facts about Men and Vasectomy
August 31, 2018 MCI Blog, 10 Facts, Vasectomy
Vasectomy and condoms are the only current options for male contraception.

The most popular form of long-acting male contraception is a vasectomy. Unfortunately, vasectomies are not considered truly reversible. Researchers are currently working on vas-occlusion devices that will be truly reversible in the future. Additionally, other male contraceptive options are working their way down the pipeline.

In the meantime, here are 10 facts about the most reliable form of male birth control existing today.

10. Vasectomies are generally very safe, and complications are rare.

9. Men who get a vasectomy say that they feel more free when having sex with their partner because they don’t have to worry about an unplanned pregnancy.

8. Getting a vasectomy is a simple outpatient procedure.

7. Approximately half a million men get the procedure each year in the U.S. – They are even more popular in the time around March Madness, where men can recover while watching the NCAA Tournament.

6. Vasectomy does not affect semen production. Instead, it prevents sperm from being transported to mix with other seminal fluids. Men who have vasectomies still experience normal orgasms!

5. It’s possible to reverse a vasectomy if a man changes his mind later and decides to have children. However, reversal success rates can vary between 40-90%. Researchers are working on vas-occlusive devices, which act like a vasectomy, but are intended to be truly reversible. Ultimately, only 3-5% of men request a reversal.

4. Vasectomies do not affect a man’s sexual function, sex drive or sex life.

3. The procedure and recovery is usually painless, and men generally experience minimal, if any, side effects.

2. Vasectomies are 99% effective at preventing unplanned pregnancies.

1. Every year, men and women globally celebrate World Vasectomy Day.

While currently men have limited options for contraception, Male Contraceptive Initiative is funding research into non-hormonal, long-acting reversible male options. Ultimately, we’re after a menu of options that meets the needs of men and women alike. Join us.

maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 09:44 pm
@neptuneblue,
Wait.... Three posts ago you were wanting to ban them.

Make up your mind. I ain't getting one anyway.
Real Music
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2019 10:53 pm
@maxdancona,
Max, although the Viagara aspect of this proposed law doesn't necessarily affect all men, it does affect many men.

I noticed that you haven't comment about that particular aspect of the proposed law.

What do you think about legislators proposing a law that requires men to obtain permission from their sexual partner before obtaining a prescription for Viagra?

I just want to know how your critical thinking might apply in this specific circumstance.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 06:17 am
@Real Music,
What makes you think I don't support a restriction on Viagra without permission of a sexual partner?

I think it is a great idea.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 06:31 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Wait.... Three posts ago you were wanting to ban them.

Make up your mind. I ain't getting one anyway.


It should be a decision left up to a man and his medical practitioner, not a legislative action. But, as things go, since reproductive rights are now being legislated, then men's reproductive rights should be at the forefront of the discussion.

As you can see, nobody really wants to talk about that.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 06:57 am
@neptuneblue,
We are in complete agreement Neptune. There is really no moral difference between ending the life of a developing human fetus and cutting off the reproductive abilities of an adult male.

They are really the same thing. I have no problem talking about it. We should ban vasectomies.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 12:08 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
What makes you think I don't support a restriction on Viagra without permission of a sexual partner?

I think it is a great idea.

Since you had for whatever reason avoided commenting on this specific aspect of the proposed law while going out of your way to comment about other aspects of the proposed law is why I ask the question.

For the record, I can say that you Max fully support the propose law that would specifically require men to obtain permission from their sexual partner before obtaining a prescription for Viagra.

If this truly is your honest opinion, then I do thank you for clarifying where you stand on this one specific aspect of the proposed law.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 01:00 pm
@Real Music,
The word "sexual partner" should be clarified. The permission should be given specifically by a certified woman who has been granted this power... because along with pornography, masturbation and other forms of sexuality, it should be a woman.

Of course homosexual men, if they are duly certified, would be exempt (maybe we would need a woman to confirm their sexuality).

Since a man's sexuality should only be used in ways that are acceptable to women, we should go further than just a ban on viagra. For centuries women have been trying to keep adolescent boys from masturbating, we now have the medicine that can block male sexual functions and desire.

We should consider giving this treatment on boys starting at about age 12. Call it the cure for "toxic masculinity".
roger
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 01:48 pm
@maxdancona,
So, how does a person become a 'certified woman'?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 02:15 pm
@roger,
If a woman says she is a woman, shouldn't we believe her? I think that should be enough. I suppose the word "certified" suggests something more official is needed... I deeply apologize for any women (certified or not) that I might have offended.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2019 04:00 pm
@maxdancona,
Thank you.
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Real Music
 
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