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THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jan, 2019 11:55 pm
@oralloy,
I take it you didnt get the memo? No more Feynman diagrams without the necessary particles around. Sad.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2019 12:22 am
@farmerman,
The universe running out of fuel to produce new stars doesn't mean there is no longer any matter. It just means there won't be any more sunlight. There will still be plenty of matter left when the universe goes dark.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2019 12:59 am
@oralloy,
I think physicists call it "Heat Death"> Im big on gradients as the the cause for everything to happen and the reason it doesnt happen at once.
Gradients are neat, when we run out of em, everything decays.
(even matter). We may have some photons and components of elementary particles but, in order to make something, we do need a workbench, and were gonna need more than particles.

Itll be a bad weekend but hey, party;s gotta end. (Big crunch, big tear, big freeze), I rather like the Big Nothin
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2019 01:04 am
@farmerman,
The end of new stars will not be the heat death of the universe. When the stars go out, the history of the universe will just be getting started.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2019 05:02 am
@oralloy,
mmmm kaaaay.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2019 08:17 am
@farmerman,
Did you think that all matter would suddenly vanish the moment there was no longer any more sunlight?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2019 07:01 pm
And then we will know...?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jan, 2019 04:36 am
@oralloy,
entropy makes a great subject for sci fi.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2019 06:50 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Gradients are neat, when we run out of em, everything decays.
(even matter). We may have some photons and components of elementary particles but, in order to make something, we do need a workbench, and were gonna need more than particles.

Age of the universe when it runs out of fuel for stars and the last stars burn out:
100 trillion years
100,000,000,000,000 years
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Star_formation_ceases


Age of the universe when protons have all degenerated and there is no longer any matter left:
10,000 trillion trillion trillion years
10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#All_nucleons_decay


Matter-based beings will still have some time left after the last stars burn out -- at least if they can find a way to generate their own power.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2019 06:54 pm
@oralloy,
I think the dissolution of galaxies will be our doom:
100 million trillion years
100,000,000,000,000,000,000 years
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Stellar_remnants_escape_galaxies_or_fall_into_black_holes

As long as there is a galaxy, our descendants will be able to migrate from fuel source to fuel source.

Once there are no longer any more nearby fuel sources for us to migrate to, that's probably going to be the end.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Mar, 2019 07:32 am
@oralloy,
Im more concerned about the "cosmic day to day" issues like,
When e going to be smacked by gamma radition from a lethal gamma ray burst(a burst aimed toward us and closer than 5K lightyears).
The effects will be unknown, unable to be predicted xcept by statistical inference and will be another "Big 5 extinction vent"'(Cosmologists say about 300 000 000 years)

Geopolitical effects , well before any cosmic eroion will be the creation of a new Pangea and possible disagreements about national "boundaries"

I hope we will have evolved to become a truly planet wide civilization by that time. Never know,


farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Mar, 2019 05:20 pm
@farmerman,
much cataclysmic **** will worry our descenents much earlier than the 1Ga date of the increasing heat budget of the inner planets as the sun begins to exude het from burning He.

I as reading about how C3 plants will no longer be able to survive as early as 300Ma from now. Since most plants are C3 we will be swimming in CO2. So we better be out house hunting say, 200 000 000 years from next tuesday
roger
 
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Reply Sun 3 Mar, 2019 05:22 pm
@farmerman,
200 000 000 years from next tuesday I'm not sure I'll outlast the last car I bought.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Mar, 2019 05:24 pm
@farmerman,
This is interesting it even incorporates the "geologists beer drinking unitTHE TECTONIC BUBNOFF"

TIMELINE FOR THE FAR FUTURE
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 07:22 pm
@farmerman,
A couple journals I get have been critical of our "frauulent" dependence on statistical inference for reporting out data. STILL, Statistical inference sys that it will be about 500 million years when we can expect some atmosphere cleansing cosmic event such as a supernova or a gamma ray burst to cause a mass extinction. With some hope we will finally have at least gotten our asses out of gear and reading **** on the internet so we can get rolling and get the hell off this rock.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 07:28 pm
@farmerman,
'pity this busy monster, manunkind'
pity this busy monster, manunkind,

not. Progress is a comfortable disease:
your victim (death and life safely beyond)

plays with the bigness of his littleness
--- electrons deify one razorblade
into a mountainrange; lenses extend
unwish through curving wherewhen till unwish
returns on its unself.
A world of made
is not a world of born --- pity poor flesh

and trees, poor stars and stones, but never this
fine specimen of hypermagical

ultraomnipotence. We doctors know

a hopeless case if --- listen: there's a hell
of a good universe next door; let's go

E. E. Cummings
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